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46. LiberalHxn, you say "what you hear" and "widely believed."

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:37 PM

Dec 2017

These days, in which massive corruption of popular thinking has become normal, shouldn't those very words make you question everything everyone "believes"?

Seriously. Really, really seriously. I don't know how Pawlenty would do, but I do absolutely know that all Democratic candidates who have the best chance of winning are targeted for image assassination. And, according to you, "everyone's" saying he'd lose. Umhmmm...

Also, note that primary Democratic candidates the right believes would be easy to beat are being puffed up as fine, viable choices in order to steer Democratic voters to them.

Mass media and popular opinion these days should be noted coolly and clinically as part of a search for truth and understanding. And otherwise avoided like poison.

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DAMN! Pawlenty practically announced he's running for Franken's seat on CNN! [View all] MoonRiver Dec 2017 OP

So T-paw is back... gillibrand's blowback Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #1

Still hoping that Al Franken decides to change his mind & can tell Pawlenty he has to wait till 2020 Pachamama Dec 2017 #2

And you're worried because...why? brooklynite Dec 2017 #3

He was also elected Governor twice by Minnesota's voters. Mister Ed Dec 2017 #4

I'm in MN for graduate school right now, liberalhistorian Dec 2017 #27

LiberalHxn, you say "what you hear" and "widely believed." Hortensis Dec 2017 #46

"DAMN! Pawlenty practically announced he's running for Franken's seat on CNN!" LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #52

I wasn't talking about Pawlenty himself, Lena, but Hortensis Dec 2017 #53

Presidential politics are a lot different than a Senate race in one state Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #5

You obviously don't understand MN politics MrsMatt Dec 2017 #6

Franken barely won Minnesota, there is reason for concern which is why Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #8

And is resignation the only punishment, even assuming accusations are true (which I don't)? LisaL Dec 2017 #12

I don't think what he is accused of (which I don't believe) rises to the level of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #41

He was re-elected with 53.2% of the vote. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #36

He barely won the first time. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #39

Yes. I said he barely won the first time. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #59

My point was he had the incumbent advantage the second time. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #60

No kidding. n/t GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #61

As an incumbent. There is always an advantage for an incumbent.... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #42

He won by a healthy margin for re-election. LBM20 Dec 2017 #50

I'm worried because we needlessly took a safe Dem seat, and made it wide open. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #9

And we could end up losing it. LisaL Dec 2017 #11

Unfortunately, that is true. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #14

Franken's approval rating dropped into the mid-30s mythology Dec 2017 #16

Link or at least source? MoonRiver Dec 2017 #17

KSTP TV brooklynite Dec 2017 #22

What would his support be if there were an Ethics Committee Investigation? MoonRiver Dec 2017 #24

Likely not better, and possibly worse..... brooklynite Dec 2017 #26

Go promote your senators and stop attacking mine. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #31

Thanks to Gillibrand and her Mob, we'll never know. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #34

!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #54

So 55% want him stay and go to Ethic Committee riverwalker Dec 2017 #37

Yeah but Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #19

Good grief...of course it dropped....Without an Ethics Hearing we will never know....nt Ninga Dec 2017 #20

We had six years...to go...so we could have waited run the investigation and see what happens. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #43

That was in a 3-week window. Polls change, moonscape Dec 2017 #58

You're acting irrational again... one action does not define a totality. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #21

I don't like Pawlenty. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #7

Of course he is. So will Norm Coleman. Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #10

Coleman has already said hes not running. brooklynite Dec 2017 #13

I trust him abourt as much as I'd trust liberalhistorian Dec 2017 #28

Gee, who saw that coming?! demmiblue Dec 2017 #15

Does anyone else have the sneaking liberalhistorian Dec 2017 #30

I think this is exactly what happened...and some in our party helped them...so pissed. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #44

Pawlenty may be the most consistently overrated politician in the country karynnj Dec 2017 #18

He's a legend in his own mind liberalhistorian Dec 2017 #29

LOL -- It is fascinating how the media forms CW around some who really did not have the karynnj Dec 2017 #33

2018 is shaping up to be a Blue Wave. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #23

The problem is that, outside of the twin liberalhistorian Dec 2017 #32

The pussy grabber is thankful for the opening workinclasszero Dec 2017 #25

Did he talk about how his DOT let a bridge fall down on his watch? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #35

Bannon said he targeting Minnesota riverwalker Dec 2017 #38

That so sucks. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #40

That was as sure as the sun coming up. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #56

We already have an uphill battle next year eissa Dec 2017 #45

Gillibrand really overplayed her hand. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #47

I truly hope so eissa Dec 2017 #48

Me too. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #49

2018 is going to be a blue wave year. Get a good Dem to run and tie Pawlenty to Trump. LBM20 Dec 2017 #51

The law of unintended consequences Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #55

First thing he needs to be asked is if he supports an investigation into allegations about Trump book_worm Dec 2017 #57

Why should I worry about a guy who's been out of office for 7 years? brooklynite Dec 2017 #62