Your second amendment rights are getting in the way of our rights.

[beevul]

266. Wow, so much that just isn't true.

"1- Seller must provide registration and a Title, both with the VIN on it. The VIN, is in a data base that will show if the vehicle had tickets, warrants, had ever been in a major accident or is a restored "total". "

Nope. Cars are sold without titles all the time. Cars and trucks without titles can be operated without a license, insurance, registration, or plates, on private property to ones hearts content.

I could take a car or truck, strip the seats out of it, cut the roof off, mount aircraft landing lights on it, or remove all the lights completely, break the winshield, or remove it completely, and drive it around the back 5 acres at 110 mph with no license registration insurance or plates sitting on a 5 gallon bucket.

Ownership allows those sorts of things. Usage in public is a different thing, and something which you are conflating and/or confusing with simple ownership.



"2 -Seller must provide bill of sale with his home address on it and that must match the address on the Title"

Since a title isn't required UNLESS one wishes to register the vehicle, this can not be a truth.

"3 - In most states, the vehicle must have plates at point of sale. Note that to get the plates, the owner must provide Title. In some states, the plates are turned in and new ones purchase when the car is re -titled "

The operative assumption here, is that the person buying the vehicle wishes to drive it on a public street.

None of that is required that if the person wishes simply to own the vehicle or to use it offroad or on ones own property.

"4 - In most states, the vehicle must be inspected within a time window after purchase, and, at inspection, the owner must, again, show registration, proof of insurance, and, in some states, show title. And periodically, you must have the vehicle re- inspected, and, again, show DL and reg. "

LOL, this one is laughable. Most states require a vehicle to be inspected? Please.

You're confusing simple ownership which does not require those things, with usage on or in public, which requires those things.

"5 - In most states, you must have vehicle insurance to operate on public roads. To buy insurance, you must have a valid driver's license, show registration and sometimes title."

This is actually true, however one can own as many vehicles as one pleases, and never drive them on a public road, never have insurance on them, and never have a license or registration.

"6 - In all states to operate a vehicle on a public road, you must have a valid driver's license, and you must have it renewed periodically. If you get too many tickets, or are caught DWI, you can lose your license to drive."

This is also true, however none of that is necessary to own a car or drive one offroad on private property.

"7 - To get a DL, you must present a valid ID, like a birth certificate, proof of residence, and social security number, and all of this is cross checked in nationwide data banks by the state. You must pass an eye exam, a written test and a road test, to get your driver's license. And you will be subject to a background check when you get your driver's license, to see if you have been licensed in other states, what your driving record was like there, to make sure you are not a person who has had his DL revoked, or has outstanding tickets or warrants, or is on the lam."

True enough, however, again, no drivers license is required to simply pay cash for a car and drive it on your own property.

Rural America is chocked full of farms which have pickup trucks that are examples of exactly what I'm talking about.

"8- And there are a number of instances where you could have your vehicle impounded for breaking the law. Like, if it was used to transport drugs."

And there are a number of instances where your gun confiscated for breaking the law.


"Now compare this to your state laws for firearm purchase and ownership. Re- read my list and substitute "firearm" for "vehicle", and compare to firearm purchase and use laws. I rest my case... "

Lets take it a step farther.


You get yourself a nice nationwide firearm licensing scheme going.

Are you willing to allow all those who are licensed - now keep in mind, this is EVERY gun owner now rather than the relative few that decide to get a concealed carry license -
are you willing to let them all cross state lines, as they do with cars - legally?

Willing to let them sell back and forth to each other over state lines legally, as they do with cars?

Take their guns with them to the malls, schools, and everywhere that people take their cars with them - legally?

Willing to let convicted felons own them, as they can own cars - legally?

Willing to allow 16 year olds to be licensed for them, as we do with cars - some states allow kids to drive to school at 14 - legally? Draw a parallel there.

Willing to do away with the "1 gun a month" laws, since there are no "one car a month" laws?

Willing to do away with the "cooling off" or "waiting period" for guns in the states that have them, since there are none for cars?

Willing to do away with the gun control act of 1968 and the national firearms fact of 1934, and let people freely buy sell and own machineguns, short barreled rifles shotguns and destructive devices, since there are no special restrictions on "race car" ownership?



I don't believe you're really thought this through completely.

Ownership and use in public are completely different things with completely different rules.