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pipoman

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16. It is hard to marginalize an uncivilized member

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:43 AM

Jul 2012

of society when that person is invading your home, victimizing you or someone you love, or shooting up the movie theater you are attending. Most of the US society are quite civilized. It is the tiny fraction who isn't who makes Moyer's proclamation that it is a civil liberty which makes the US uncivil simply wrong. No, it is disparity of wealth, inability of the poor to access needed health care (and in this case mental health services), no access to addiction services without a Mercedes full of cash, and many other socioeconomic disparities which make some people uncivilized..Simplistic, utopian thinking would lead one to proclaim the NRA the boogie man in this and all shooting incidents.

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A sane voice, one of the few left- please listen. [View all] BeHereNow Jul 2012 OP

Too many refuse to pipoman Jul 2012 #1

As someone who is touched personally by it on a daily basis, I acknowledge it. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #3

I acknoweledge it and work with the homeless quaker bill Jul 2012 #12

RKBA doesn't need a defense...it is a civil liberty.. pipoman Jul 2012 #13

It is a civil liberty, until it isn't. quaker bill Jul 2012 #18

Great minds think alike! snappyturtle Jul 2012 #2

Moyers should be the norm in a civilized society. The fact that he stands out as a voice of sanity sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #4

What You Mean "We"? AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #6

Then we don't want what we say we want badly enough do we? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #9

I Don't Think Any of Us Know How AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #21

I agree with you strongly cbrer Jul 2012 #10

The term "civilized society" pipoman Jul 2012 #14

.There are civilized societies where people like Moyers are the norm. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #15

It is hard to marginalize an uncivilized member pipoman Jul 2012 #16

Well, I agree with you regarding our Healthcare system, and do believe it plays a very large role sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #20

That was before we got a Democratic president.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #5

Tea Party flyguyjake Jul 2012 #7

You're deep in denial Doctor_J Jul 2012 #8

I hope you're way off on this prediction. nt snappyturtle Jul 2012 #11

I'm w/ you, Fume. xchrom Jul 2012 #17

I'm usually with Moyers 100%.. sendero Jul 2012 #19