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In reply to the discussion: Without Googling, How Many DUers Know What Rogerian Argument Is? [View all]chia
(2,835 posts)Those who consider themselves moderates (or strive mightily to be nonpartisan) aren't getting anywhere. Their voices, reasonable as they might be, are lost in the bedlam, and while I can appreciate their objectivity, it's not sufficient in a post-Trump world. The breach is too wide and the stakes are too high, and it's time to take a side and take a stand.
(Wait... That's sounding kind of Rogerian.
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I've spent years being an opposing view on a conservative site, and there's been no (apparent) change of view from a single one of the hard alt-right of them since Trump entered the campaign. These people are FOX/Breitbart/InfoWars/Crowder people, and they're so brainwashed. They literally don't care what Trump does. "Trump is gonna Trump" is their attitude, and they really do think he's one of them. And it really IS all about homophobia, racism, and xenophobia, and no. They aren't changing their minds, rationality slides right off of them. Well, I'm not interested at this point in trying to objective, to find a common ground. I took a side and I'm staying on it, and there's no place to stake a flag in the middle.
IMHO the only possible way to bridge the chasm is if war comes to us from the outside; self-preservation of the Union against an enemy from without is the only cause that's large enough to unify. But I'm afraid chances are greater that war will come from within.