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In reply to the discussion: A message to those who wish to ban or restrict guns: Give up. [View all]quaker bill
(8,264 posts)As a Quaker, I oppose violence and the conditions that lead to violence. You are correct, the availability of guns is only a small issue in this regard, and concerted activism is politically counterproductive.
The ownership of slaves was once a cherished "civil liberty" too. A war was fought over it (among other things). The issue of ending slavery was ongoing many decades before the war. The breakdown in civil order and cooperative relations between the States had much to do with this issue and its impacts economically.
Quakers began activism to end slavery in the 1660's, the movement was well underway when the Constitution was written. The institution was ended one state at a time up until the Civil war when it finally ended nationally. The point is that activism was actually working, which is why the south chose to band together to protect the institution. If activism had not been working, the conflict would have never arisen.
Quakers are quite used to being unpopular, the Commonwealth of Virginia passed a "Quaker act" before the establishment of the union. They were concerned that we kept freeing their slaves. Thomas Jefferson was among those sponsoring the act as we had liberated some of his property....
That said activism will not be the cause of the end of the RKBA. It will be the Holmes types, because at some point the Freedom to go see a movie or go to work without being shot for it will take precedence. The only question left is how many corpses will be involved before it happens.