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(9,685 posts) Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:39 AM Dec 2017

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Our integrity is severely tarnished: Christianity Today editor says no one will believe a word... [View all]

we say’ after Alabama

“No matter the outcome of today’s special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation,” the editorial explained. “Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished.”

Democrat Doug Jones defeated Roy Moore in the special election.

The editorial noted the Alabama special election, “put an exclamation point on a problem that has been festering for a year and a half—ever since a core of strident conservative Christians began to cheer for Donald Trump without qualification and a chorus of other believers decried that support as immoral.”

“The Christian leaders who have excused, ignored, or justified his unscrupulous behavior and his indecent rhetoric have only given credence to their critics who accuse them of hypocrisy,” the editorial continued.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/our-integrity-is-severely-tarnished-christianity-today-editor-says-no-one-will-believe-a-word-we-say-after-alabama/

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Our integrity is severely tarnished: Christianity Today editor says no one will believe a word... [View all] Soph0571 Dec 2017 OP

Well said Happyhippychick Dec 2017 #1

Well, when you are a lying, cheating, pedophile republican FAKE christian Achilleaze Dec 2017 #2

This progressive Christian agrees Nonhlanhla Dec 2017 #3

I am a Christian too...and spent some time in evangelical churches in Georgia (hubs liked the music) Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #7

I know many a fine Episcopalian. AllyCat Dec 2017 #15

Yes, "By their works,you shall know them". Christians are supposed to minister to the poor, the Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #18

Thing is, EVERONE should minister to the poor, and love one another. pangaia Dec 2017 #53

I agree. What I am saying is that those who claim to follow Christ and don't do those things are not Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #61

Yes, we agree.... pangaia Dec 2017 #62

I love my kitties... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #63

My dogga daughter is evidence-based Christian Love. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #79

Every dogga daughter needs a little Christian love. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #87

++1000 Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #65

No I love the cat GIF - have a copy in my GIF collection. n/t. airplaneman Dec 2017 #98

There've been hypocrites since time immemorial. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #78

I've been episcopalan all my life. No regrets. They evolve. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #22

"Trump and Moore have tarnished Christianity...perhaps permanently." That may be very true. Grins Dec 2017 #42

Such a list of deplorable "Christians"--well done! pandr32 Dec 2017 #46

They aren't any more christians than i would be a ball player if i walked into the mets dugout pangaia Dec 2017 #100

Excellent... defacto7 Dec 2017 #51

Don't forget Pastor Steven Anderson of Arizona dustyscamp Dec 2017 #81

Too subtle! He needs to be more outspoken. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #89

Good for you gopiscrap Dec 2017 #59

Those are not Christians. Never have been. Never will be. Fakes and frauds to the core Roland99 Dec 2017 #4

The certainly are Christians edhopper Dec 2017 #24

No. They arent. Theyre cultists who have distorted Christianity Roland99 Dec 2017 #36

No true Scotsman arguments edhopper Dec 2017 #38

Actually they would be. I am reformed. Former Catholic. Now atheist Roland99 Dec 2017 #47

I stand corrected edhopper Dec 2017 #72

There truly isnt such a thing. Not anymore. Roland99 Dec 2017 #73

What defines a Christian? edhopper Dec 2017 #74

It would be someone who followed his teaching, esp the Beatitudes Roland99 Dec 2017 #83

There's not much morality in the 'sermon on the mount' demopilot Dec 2017 #85

I have no desire to get into a theological debate Roland99 Dec 2017 #86

But consider the woman at the well.. jberryhill Dec 2017 #105

The believe his teachings thing doesnt jberryhill Dec 2017 #104

Everyone makes up his or her own definition. Mariana Dec 2017 #113

Do they believe that Jesus is their savior, who died for their sins? jberryhill Dec 2017 #102

Jesus spoke about and to the Pharasees. Left-over Dec 2017 #44

Innit something? jberryhill Dec 2017 #107

He did indeed. He said to obey them. Mariana Dec 2017 #114

Remarks that were long overdue. Vinca Dec 2017 #5

The "word" will be believed as long as it does not come from phony democratisphere Dec 2017 #6

Tiny problem in that reasoning: YOU DO NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY. DetlefK Dec 2017 #8

Unfortunately edhopper Dec 2017 #26

actually, they are just following their holy book..... see below snooper2 Dec 2017 #54

It's OK to sell your daughter (no mention is made of age) to a man for him to use as a sex slave TwistOneUp Dec 2017 #91

Well to be kind malaise Dec 2017 #9

TL;DR on the Christianity Today article: Girard442 Dec 2017 #10

I give this writer a lot of credit. Mariana Dec 2017 #11

This shit is NOT a year and a half old Cosmocat Dec 2017 #12

Exactly! world wide wally Dec 2017 #13

THIS BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #31

I think it started with the "Prosperity Gospel" movement of the 1940s TBA Dec 2017 #34

Keep going backward misanthrope Dec 2017 #108

Absolutely true! get the red out Dec 2017 #35

Bingo workinclasszero Dec 2017 #58

Yes, I knew the Republicans had been compomised... TwistOneUp Dec 2017 #92

About damn time some of them speak out... Moostache Dec 2017 #14

You said what "I said" on another thread "that" multiplied by the sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #80

Roy Moore Was Just One Aspect Of A Larger. Phenomenon Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #16

Integrity involves honesty. Moore can't be truthful. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #27

Not a problem that has only been festering for a year standingtall Dec 2017 #17

Agreed. These misguided, propagandized people have, PatrickforO Dec 2017 #19

That's right-TOTAL HYPOCRISY AND NO INTEGRITY!!! VaBchTgerLily Dec 2017 #20

Ya think? vlyons Dec 2017 #21

The good lord works in mysterious ways Politicub Dec 2017 #23

Good Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #25

"religion loses it influence on religion"?? Glorfindel Dec 2017 #33

Derp. Thanks. Clearly didn't reread before posting it. Fixed. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #48

Now that it's been put like that, though Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #76

K&R n/t Glorfindel Dec 2017 #28

Another probable truth is... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #29

I hope he is right get the red out Dec 2017 #30

I got news for them workinclasszero Dec 2017 #32

The RW has zentrum Dec 2017 #37

I have watched in amazement gibraltar72 Dec 2017 #39

It's so much easier for "good" Christians to just say, "They aren't Christians!" Mariana Dec 2017 #55

Well, you see there's this............. DFW Dec 2017 #40

K and R BadgerMom Dec 2017 #41

They should worry about how small their "integrity" is, not how "shiny"... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #43

Evangelical Christianity's reputation is in tatters, lark Dec 2017 #45

Gee, who would have thunk it? peggysue2 Dec 2017 #49

The venal hypocrisy of today's evangelical Christian Republicans... hunter Dec 2017 #50

Never thought I'd say it... but defacto7 Dec 2017 #52

For example... Renew Deal Dec 2017 #56

Lots of sane folks around who have trouble breaking through the LOUD noices of the RW riversedge Dec 2017 #57

Republican Jesus has destroyed Christianity sarcasmo Dec 2017 #60

85% of the White Christian evangelists supported Moore. ladjf Dec 2017 #64

Yeee HAWWWWWWWWW! raven mad Dec 2017 #66

Need to divide that pie some more. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #90

Nobody believes anybody else is right TwistOneUp Dec 2017 #93

I thought Jebus wanted the child molester. sofa king Dec 2017 #67

Sexual misconduct aside, the "Christianity" of the religious right uis severely tarnished by ... Martin Eden Dec 2017 #68

LINK to original article Sentath Dec 2017 #69

So ANOTHER win thanks to Moore's defeat RandomAccess Dec 2017 #70

That's fine, but NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #71

"...no one will believe a word we say..." Iggo Dec 2017 #75

There is a reason for that, and they know what it is jmowreader Dec 2017 #77

A lot of Christians voted for Doug Jones. IronLionZion Dec 2017 #82

African-Americans tend to be pretty religious. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #106

That is certainly the case in Alabama, at any rate misanthrope Dec 2017 #109

Faith is a piss poor substitute for thinking. n/t demopilot Dec 2017 #84

Now you are getting somewhere with this discussion. TryLogic Dec 2017 #96

+100 misanthrope Dec 2017 #111

with all due respect Skittles Dec 2017 #88

Good! Maybe we can tear down the pompous temple of pretenders who always manage struggle4progress Dec 2017 #94

Well that's exactly who they are, and Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #95

My observation of essentially all religions is that, from time to time, TryLogic Dec 2017 #97

But there is one thing... jberryhill Dec 2017 #110

Like so many other human institutions misanthrope Dec 2017 #112

Christian leaders have been watching kkkristian leaders taking it down the sewers for a while. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #99

Shameless, disgusting, hypocritical bile thinly disguised as "moderate, centrist, Comp.Conservatism" Rainbow Droid Dec 2017 #101

Christian churches made a big mistake by hitching their wagons to the Republican Party. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #103

I noticed this long ago... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2017 #115

So many republican so-called christians are full-on hypocrites Achilleaze Dec 2017 #116

marking for later. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #117

I sometimes do battle on their Facebook page. dembotoz Dec 2017 #118