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Cary

(11,746 posts) Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:47 AM Dec 2017

Bill Clinton in retrospect [View all]

People knew who and what Bill Clinton was. I recall saying that he had a job to do and his personal pecadillos were irrelevant. Bill Clinton was a great President. History sees it that way.

Was defending Bill Clinton an act of partisanship? I oppose #fakepresident and Roy Moore for a lot more than their personal sexual transgressions. History will not look favorably on either of them.

Unfortunate I can't draw this distinction any better. I am working on it.

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Bill Clintons acts with Monica Lewinsky were consensual. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #1

Perhaps Cary Dec 2017 #3

Why do people act as if Bill Clinton was the first President to behave that way? pnwmom Dec 2017 #62

I don't think anyone thinks Bill Clinton was the first Cary Dec 2017 #67

Clinton was a horn dog BUT Freddie Dec 2017 #2

Yep, If We're Going RobinA Dec 2017 #15

I agree!!! happy feet Dec 2017 #51

My take at the time and now.... vi5 Dec 2017 #4

The Clinton question is tough. Renew Deal Dec 2017 #5

It goes beyond Clinton, obviously Cary Dec 2017 #6

Lewinsky was an intern HopeAgain Dec 2017 #7

We cannot undo the past Cary Dec 2017 #8

Look what happened at the debate... HopeAgain Dec 2017 #9

I'm not sure that worked beyond deplorables Cary Dec 2017 #10

They thrive on whataboutism HopeAgain Dec 2017 #13

Lot of that going around... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #39

I disagree karynnj Dec 2017 #21

The election was stolen with voter suppression Cary Dec 2017 #28

Any close election can be said to have been caused by a large number of things that impacted it karynnj Dec 2017 #37

I can't buy that tbeory Cary Dec 2017 #42

In 2016, a smaller percent of people who voted for Bernie in the primary voted for Trump, than karynnj Dec 2017 #44

I don't pretend that I will ever convince "the left" Cary Dec 2017 #45

What I said is my honest "truth" as well - in quotes, because in fact - both of us are referring to karynnj Dec 2017 #47

Tired tactic number two: Cary Dec 2017 #48

Pretty arrogant to equate DISAGREE with NOT UNDERSTAND nt karynnj Dec 2017 #49

And right back to attacking me, personally. Cary Dec 2017 #50

I'd pretend an observation is an attack as well... LanternWaste Dec 2017 #55

How difficult is it to stick to the issue without deflecting? Cary Dec 2017 #56

Yes, the law clearly states that you cannot have sex with an adult who is an intern. OnDoutside Dec 2017 #11

That is not true treestar Dec 2017 #12

So Bill Clinton was a victim? HopeAgain Dec 2017 #14

No, He Was Not RobinA Dec 2017 #17

+1 treestar Dec 2017 #24

There is no doubt that Clinton was a victim Cary Dec 2017 #18

No, neither of them were. treestar Dec 2017 #23

"Seduced By"? RobinA Dec 2017 #16

Especially the way she planned it ahead of meeting him treestar Dec 2017 #25

True Cary Dec 2017 #29

Monica pursued Bill, and not vice-versa Zambero Dec 2017 #26

No she wasn't an intern dsc Dec 2017 #30

She was a consenting adult, no matter what way you slice it. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #34

She was not seduced by Clinton - it was the other way around dansolo Dec 2017 #41

She was a college graduate and an adult. She bragged to her friend about her success pnwmom Dec 2017 #63

Clinton enjoyed a perfect swarm for his scandal... Drunken Irishman Dec 2017 #19

I recall Henry Hyde whining in the well of the Senate Cary Dec 2017 #43

I honestly think that much of this is a person's private life...and I don't see forcing people to Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #20

He was a general embarrassment because of his behavior. alarimer Dec 2017 #22

Says the person with the JFK quote in the footer. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #35

Ha! Cary Dec 2017 #46

Good catch. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #58

Those of you trashing Bill Clinton at this point have way too much time on your hands. Paladin Dec 2017 #27

Because we need to answer to this Cary Dec 2017 #32

No they dont FreeState Dec 2017 #64

That's not what I am referring ro Cary Dec 2017 #66

In retrospect... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #31

Interesting observation Cary Dec 2017 #33

Yes, it would karynnj Dec 2017 #38

Clinton was a philanderer and a dog there is no doubt about that. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #36

You're completely right Renew Deal Dec 2017 #40

it is possible to support someone as a politician, but not support their personal behavior. TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #59

Many good politicians had moral shortcomings. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #61

Who cares what 3 consenting adults do in their private life? BigRig Dec 2017 #52

never forgave the clintons for welfare reform dembotoz Dec 2017 #53

As there is no need to defend consensual, legal sex the defense cannot then, be partisan. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #54

There you go again Cary Dec 2017 #57

The main issue, in today's climate, is that he definitely could have been considered... moriah Dec 2017 #65

It was just the hypocrisy... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #60