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8. it was a perfect storm of good news for us. some of it particular to that race, but others not.

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 12:46 PM

Dec 2017

ya gotta think had the republican not been a child molester that would have earned him at least as much as the margin of victory, that being a little more than 1%. i mean, surely the whole hitting on 14-year olds issue cost him at least 2%.

so, yeah, it's not likely that we can repeat this in other deep red states.

that said, alabama proved that given the right candidate and the right circumstances, we can win anywhere.

moreover, we benefited not just from moore being moore, but also from donnie being one of the least popular presidents ever, and with huge discontent over the state of politics and government because of the republican party.

independents are starting to lean more left than right, and democrats are more motivated than they have been in a long time. our motivation to restore democracy in 2018 and 2020 might even exceed our motivation to vote for a black president in 2008.

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Would Jones have won if his opponet was [View all] wasupaloopa Dec 2017 OP

Well it decreased the republican manority by one. Its all good. boston bean Dec 2017 #1

That was one of two "earthquakes" mentioned by Hortensis Dec 2017 #49

I don't see it as a turning point either Jarqui Dec 2017 #2

In a state where donnie won by 28% leftynyc Dec 2017 #35

A miracle? Jarqui Dec 2017 #43

No - you just don't understand Alabama (n/t) leftynyc Dec 2017 #44

Sadly, I think I do nt Jarqui Dec 2017 #46

I certainly do and think the poster is correct. misanthrope Dec 2017 #65

I suspect this person understands Alabama Jarqui Dec 2017 #92

Also, the state's senior U.S. Senator gave tantamount blessing misanthrope Dec 2017 #64

Oh, so I guess we should just forfeit the seat, then... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #60

The seat will go back Republican in 2020 JimBeard Dec 2017 #3

That depends on how he performs in the eyes of the state BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #6

The Republican Party is aging and dying. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #10

Do you remember Eugene McCarthy and McGovern plus many others who have depended on the youth vote. JimBeard Dec 2017 #67

we're on track to win a lot of seats in the next 2 election cycles that we may not be able to hold unblock Dec 2017 #11

Agree, Unblock. It's the nature of democracy. Hortensis Dec 2017 #48

Your concern is noted. DinahMoeHum Dec 2017 #26

Not if we get out the vote like this time treestar Dec 2017 #51

Look at it as a 3 year rental. bottomofthehill Dec 2017 #86

If Moore was not a child molestor, If Moore was not racist, Jones would lose Thor_MN Dec 2017 #4

Moore perfectly represented the bigotry and hypocrisy of the Republican Party Sophia4 Dec 2017 #12

I don't think the racism hurt him sadly and probably helped him win the primaries. Egnever Dec 2017 #53

I think it's a turning point TNLib Dec 2017 #5

I think Moore still had it... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #7

I think it was Sen Shelby leftynyc Dec 2017 #37

+100 misanthrope Dec 2017 #66

it was a perfect storm of good news for us. some of it particular to that race, but others not. unblock Dec 2017 #8

The 14-year-old was the headline-catching issue in this race, but there is a Sophia4 Dec 2017 #14

If my aunt had wheels she'd be a car. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #9

I don't know GaryCnf Dec 2017 #13

You mean that Alabama didn't just become a bastion of liberal thought lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #15

I dont believe Jones would have won against somebody decent, however, iwillalwayswonderwhy Dec 2017 #16

What it does show. Blue_true Dec 2017 #17

I agree with thst. When I heard the AA vote wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #91

Not to be Debbie Downer eissa Dec 2017 #18

i think that would be supremely stupid. mopinko Dec 2017 #20

Manchin has not voted for the GOP even once on policy this term. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #33

I'd be more than happy if I'm proven wrong eissa Dec 2017 #36

My post got hidden for saying this. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #58

That's odd eissa Dec 2017 #59

It was deemed as right wing talking point. I would say that I agree with your post but then Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #68

Oh, FFS! eissa Dec 2017 #75

They may of just alerted on me because my post count is low. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #77

here is what turned- mopinko Dec 2017 #19

What it is here is a lesson Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #21

" Because you never know when your opponent is going to hand you the chance of victory." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #22

no, his opponent would still have been a republican so no chance of a decent upstanding individual spanone Dec 2017 #23

You guys need to look at some of the maps of the 2018 election............ JimBeard Dec 2017 #24

Probably not, but even before Moore was outed for underage kids mythology Dec 2017 #25

Yesterday it was Jones couldn't win gratuitous Dec 2017 #27

We're Talking About Alabama ChoppinBroccoli Dec 2017 #28

I can't reconcile your first paragraph with the last two misanthrope Dec 2017 #71

This was about 2 peas in a pod MFM008 Dec 2017 #29

I do... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #30

Probably not, but you're missing an equally important question. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #31

we got lucky AlexSFCA Dec 2017 #32

Jones Can Immediately Start Working On Reducing Abortions SeaDoo77 Dec 2017 #34

If he does all that while proclaimin his aim is to "reduce abortions" it might not be a bad strategy misanthrope Dec 2017 #72

Moore was a bad candidate, but that's sort of the point marylandblue Dec 2017 #38

The national party didn't do that, Alabama voters did misanthrope Dec 2017 #73

GOP voters have done it before, they will do it again marylandblue Dec 2017 #89

Of course not. Codeine Dec 2017 #39

Completely agree misanthrope Dec 2017 #74

Maybe not. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #40

Not a chance Jones wins against a normal candidate. Calista241 Dec 2017 #41

He is a Democrat...remember we support Democrats. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #79

No, but the GOP primary process excluded those possibilities. Johonny Dec 2017 #42

He wouldn't have won, but it still would have been close. stevenleser Dec 2017 #45

Of course not. jalan48 Dec 2017 #47

It's a turning point as it showed the limitiations of Trump and Bannon Kaleva Dec 2017 #50

FRankly, I Could Care Less Me. Dec 2017 #52

I'm with you...some of the folks here predicted that Jones would lose and have written other Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #81

A win is still a win Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #54

No way. Roy Moore was a gift to Democrats. (nt) Paladin Dec 2017 #55

Alabama is far from blue Soxfan58 Dec 2017 #56

I will always remember Doug Jones for MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #57

Your concern is noted Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #61

It IS a turning point... artemisia1 Dec 2017 #62

Nope misanthrope Dec 2017 #63

Sometimes a bad opponent is a blessing crazycatlady Dec 2017 #69

Not at all DFW Dec 2017 #70

Too early to tell. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #76

Still at it... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #78

I believe he indeed would of won... FarPoint Dec 2017 #80

There are no decent upstanding individuals in the Republican Party. Lint Head Dec 2017 #82

Fact is, our guy won. That's a good thing and should pay off in the future even if it only means Hoyt Dec 2017 #83

I think I agree with the analysis I saw (538?) which split the 30 point swing into 3 parts Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #84

I see it as a personal loss HopeAgain Dec 2017 #85

Yeah, but when was the last time Repblicans put up a "decent, upstanding individual?" catbyte Dec 2017 #87

unique situation 110liberal Dec 2017 #88

NO. This was an anti-Trump backlash. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #90