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46. Why do women AND men vote for politicians and issues that are opposed to their own interests ....

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:03 AM

Dec 2017

Just reread "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about Thomas Frank's 2004 book. For the independent documentary film, see What's the Matter with Kansas? (film).
What's the Matter with Kansas? Whatsthematterwithkansas.jpg
Author Thomas Frank
Country United States
Subject History, United States, Kansas, political science, politics and government, conservatism
Publisher Henry Holt and Co.
Publication date
June 1, 2004
Media type Print (Hardcover)
Pages 320
ISBN 0-8050-7339-6
OCLC 54374636
Dewey Decimal
978.1/033 22
LC Class F686.2 .F73 2004

What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America (2004) is a book by American journalist and historian Thomas Frank, which explores the rise of populist anti-elitist conservatism in the United States, centering on the experience of Kansas, Frank's native state. In the late 19th century, says Frank, Kansas was known as a hotbed of the left-wing Populist movement, but in recent decades, it has become overwhelmingly conservative. The book was published in Britain and Australia as What's the Matter with America?.

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Nearly two-thirds of white women in Alabama voted for accused child molester Roy Moore [View all] workinclasszero Dec 2017 OP

Im embarrassed to be a white woman. What in the actual fuck are these subhumans thinking? onecaliberal Dec 2017 #1

The brainwashing is insane workinclasszero Dec 2017 #3

+1 Botany Dec 2017 #32

They embarrass me as well, but they are not "subhuman" whathehell Dec 2017 #5

Seems your literary license has been suspended. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #10

Yes, it's important that we not hurt the feelings of these idiot racist fuckheads. Orrex Dec 2017 #66

You're right of course: they're human - all too human, in fact. sandensea Dec 2017 #67

I went to high school in Alabama. I beg to differ with you. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #101

So only the conservative WOMEN in Alabama are "sub-human" huh? whathehell Dec 2017 #106

It's the men too. Apparently the term "sub-human" has connotations for others on Sophia4 Dec 2017 #112

"so if sub-human as a term upsets you"? whathehell Dec 2017 #116

Thanks for the advice. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #130

Torch Flashlight ... Boot + Car trunk there's more JimBeard Dec 2017 #133

I'm sorry. I think the fight against the Antebellum South kcr Dec 2017 #118

It was a term Nazis used for the inferior races that were suitable only for slavery or extermination sl8 Dec 2017 #119

Wow! I'm familiar with the term "Untermensch," but never thought about the Sophia4 Dec 2017 #128

How does "inhuman" work for you? democratisphere Dec 2017 #129

It doesn't whathehell Dec 2017 #138

The same thing that women who actually think they should be wearing a burqa are thinking. AJT Dec 2017 #6

I suggest that the choice of wearing a burka (and it IS a choice) luvtheGWN Dec 2017 #34

Wearing a Burka is only a choice in certain countries hueymahl Dec 2017 #68

If a woman wears a burqa it is because of some perversion of religion. AJT Dec 2017 #74

subhuman really the word you want? irisblue Dec 2017 #9

Thank you.. whathehell Dec 2017 #22

Alert? Huh? What did I miss here? irisblue Dec 2017 #25

It's a slur heavily associated with Nazis kcr Dec 2017 #71

Exactly...which is why it SHOULD be TS violation whathehell Dec 2017 #95

Flat out unacceptable. kcr Dec 2017 #96

Exactly.. whathehell Dec 2017 #98

As far as the slur, I think sometimes people aren't aware of the history kcr Dec 2017 #100

I think this might be a good place to add kcr Dec 2017 #73

If un suspecting people use the term and are not aware, why not do the decent thing and tell THEM JimBeard Dec 2017 #134

People who hurt children are monsters as a survivor of that I will call them what they are. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #27

A suggestion irisblue Dec 2017 #110

Okay, I can work with that. Thank you. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #122

.😀 irisblue Dec 2017 #131

I agree. We should stick to pointing out how awful humans can be. Demit Dec 2017 #79

Have you ever lived in Alabama? Gone to school there? Have family there? Sophia4 Dec 2017 #102

I read so Im informed about the population of Whiteswho voted for pedo, it was reported onecaliberal Dec 2017 #137

Um, should we all be "embarrassed" because we share the same color whathehell Dec 2017 #11

not all of us do yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #61

Yes, all of us do.. whathehell Dec 2017 #80

I am sure because I am part Japanese yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #81

Huh? whathehell Dec 2017 #93

It isn't about race. It is about Alabama and the class system there which happens Sophia4 Dec 2017 #103

Really?...Then maybe you should be calling the white MALES 'subhumsn'" whathehell Dec 2017 #114

I'm not...I'm more "embarrassed" to have to respond to such a bigoted whathehell Dec 2017 #23

subhuman? kcr Dec 2017 #51

Yes SUB HUMAN onecaliberal Dec 2017 #85

Do yourself a favor and research that word n/t kcr Dec 2017 #87

Enjoy the dust bin. Im well aware of the definition. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #88

Yet you choose to use it anyway kcr Dec 2017 #89

Is that anything like a sub-sandwich? JimBeard Dec 2017 #135

Its a Family Cherished Value. olegramps Dec 2017 #60

"Subhumans"? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #132

Babies and Jeebus ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #2

Democrats have no business reaching out to these people dalton99a Dec 2017 #4

What about their children? David__77 Dec 2017 #58

Younger people in Alabama voted in larger numbers for Doug Jones. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #109

Well, the boys are anyway kcr Dec 2017 #111

Thank you for sharing your story! David__77 Dec 2017 #120

The chart gives me hope. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #126

Not to some here. Ask anyone who was sexually abused as a child by an adult. onecaliberal Dec 2017 #86

I agree. Blue_true Dec 2017 #105

Is there a breakdown of white women irisblue Dec 2017 #7

Yeah...Men have children too. whathehell Dec 2017 #15

You're right. I was wearing blinders. Apologies. irisblue Dec 2017 #16

No problem whathehell Dec 2017 #18

As a white woman myself, I'd like to know WTF were they thinking? Arkansas Granny Dec 2017 #8

i live in NC. barbtries Dec 2017 #19

You're probably not Evangelical kcr Dec 2017 #69

Same here. I'm in Texas. hamsterjill Dec 2017 #76

Break it down by age crazycatlady Dec 2017 #12

If you look at the numbers, most young Whites in Alabama voted for Moore. Blue_true Dec 2017 #107

And 72% of white males. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #13

And they've been coddled in interviews for more than a year. bettyellen Dec 2017 #20

maybe it is time to replace all males in power with women scarytomcat Dec 2017 #28

Sounds good - until we consider how a most of these women are voting EffieBlack Dec 2017 #99

So.. no women in power. Ok. n/t kcr Dec 2017 #113

It seems Moore was just telling them luvtheGWN Dec 2017 #37

Women are no better then men when it comes to bigotry. haele Dec 2017 #59

yep let's not let them off the hook either nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #84

How about the numbers on white men?..It's higher, so why not call them out too? whathehell Dec 2017 #14

Because white men in Alabama it's a given that they vote for Moore SHRED Dec 2017 #26

So they get a pass? MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #39

No. They are sick. SHRED Dec 2017 #41

Agreed. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #43

It should not be a "given". Allowing it to be is just another whathehell Dec 2017 #82

Not how I see it SHRED Dec 2017 #83

Well I see that as a form of sexism kcr Dec 2017 #92

Points taken SHRED Dec 2017 #94

Thank you kcr Dec 2017 #108

Well, maybe that's how you should see it.. whathehell Dec 2017 #117

I've addressed this SHRED Dec 2017 #124

They can be called out too; I bet the OP point treestar Dec 2017 #125

one of those times barbtries Dec 2017 #17

These are percentages of women who actually showed up to vote. EL34x4 Dec 2017 #21

That's true...in a way workinclasszero Dec 2017 #29

Yes, which is why headlines should always read-of those that voted. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #44

Evangelical white people are bigoted hate filled assholes Dem2 Dec 2017 #24

so embarrassed for my race ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #30

Look how many of those women have silver hair. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2017 #31

Obeying and honoring the wishes of their husbands (and/or preachers) I suspect. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #33

I heard a podcast who had a great theory Corgigal Dec 2017 #35

Obama got only 42 per cent of white women in 2012 ehrnst Dec 2017 #36

I do not doubt that more WW who voted, voted for Moore. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #38

Once again demonstrating Reich-wing self-delusions Grins Dec 2017 #40

That is SHAMEFUL! I'm ashamed to be a white woman like they are. SHAME! The word isn't used enuf.nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #42

So instead of "subhuman" infullview Dec 2017 #45

Welcome to DU irisblue Dec 2017 #97

Why do women AND men vote for politicians and issues that are opposed to their own interests .... marble falls Dec 2017 #46

Let's analyze how all these white women are voting. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #47

This map shows a stolen election..nothing more judesedit Dec 2017 #49

Except in Alabama. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #53

It has to do with "The Dumbing Down Of America" judesedit Dec 2017 #48

God works in mysterious. Evangelicals, on the other hand, are just plain irrational. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2017 #50

I prefer to phrase it as "they voted in favor of child rape." Orrex Dec 2017 #52

This doesn't surprise me yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #54

These supporters of Roy Moore must think "Stand By Your Man" is a Christian hymn. muntrv Dec 2017 #55

I think it just shows us that when it comes to politics and ethics men and women can be the same. jalan48 Dec 2017 #56

White men are getting a pass because...? kcr Dec 2017 #57

It flows from political stupidity. David__77 Dec 2017 #63

Headline is a lie oberliner Dec 2017 #62

Excellent point. David__77 Dec 2017 #64

But they were willing to sit at home and let a pedophile get elected? workinclasszero Dec 2017 #78

I think it broke along evangelical lines. White non-evangelical women voted for Doug Jones. mainer Dec 2017 #65

How can they look Butterflylady Dec 2017 #70

Are there a lot of Turbineguy Dec 2017 #72

2/3 of white women who voted, you mean. alarimer Dec 2017 #75

It's spinning a relatively high Evangelical turn out into "White Women did it" kcr Dec 2017 #77

turnout being lower for white people in Alabama does not standingtall Dec 2017 #91

Yeah. AL has about 3.3 million voters with a "white" fraction around 0.726; struggle4progress Dec 2017 #115

begining to think that white people including standingtall Dec 2017 #90

Successfully indoctrinated pandr32 Dec 2017 #104

That picture looks exactly like my 75 year old aunt and her new circle of friends Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #121

1/3 white women is not all that bad in such a red state treestar Dec 2017 #123

remember this dembotoz Dec 2017 #127

I have been involved in Politics for sometime now and have tried to inderstand voter behavior. JimBeard Dec 2017 #136