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In reply to the discussion: Congratulations Donald Trump and Roy Moore! You are no longer the most hated men in America! [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)8. The Trumpanzee core thinks Net Neutrality means Government Censorship
They forget that ISPs have always been able to charge for data usage and premiums for speed.
They don't realize that the abolition of Net Neutrality means ISPs can discriminate against service providers, like their dearly loved Free Republic.
Winning - the internet does not need or want censorship and regulation from our corrupt and purchased government.
4 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:38:43 PM by rigelkentaurus
4 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:38:43 PM by rigelkentaurus
Good. I prefer the Internet over the HusseiNet.
8 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:40:53 PM by Oldeconomybuyer
8 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:40:53 PM by Oldeconomybuyer
It heavily favors the content providers over those who actually built and operate the internet.
It makes the carriers mere regulated utilities like your local phone provider, or power provider...limited to eight cents on the dollar in profit. And FORCED to sell their services to their competitors at cost.
Thats what will kill the internet as we know it. The march of broadband will stop except as forced by government regulation and subsidy. Additional leaps beyond the 40gbs backbone (to 100gbs and beyond) will be stillborn.
The internet will be frozen in its current state. All the while the content providers are free to make as much money as they can even though the people who built the internet have no reason to invest in further expansion.
When the great bandwidth crunch comes, OR the complete burn down of all available IP addresses under IPv4, the content providers will then scream for further regulation to force the carriers to invest without return.
Net Neutrality means Marxist Internet.
And Ive been in the network business for over 40 years.
46 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
It makes the carriers mere regulated utilities like your local phone provider, or power provider...limited to eight cents on the dollar in profit. And FORCED to sell their services to their competitors at cost.
Thats what will kill the internet as we know it. The march of broadband will stop except as forced by government regulation and subsidy. Additional leaps beyond the 40gbs backbone (to 100gbs and beyond) will be stillborn.
The internet will be frozen in its current state. All the while the content providers are free to make as much money as they can even though the people who built the internet have no reason to invest in further expansion.
When the great bandwidth crunch comes, OR the complete burn down of all available IP addresses under IPv4, the content providers will then scream for further regulation to force the carriers to invest without return.
Net Neutrality means Marxist Internet.
And Ive been in the network business for over 40 years.
46 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
"Can someone please tell me why Net Neutrality is a bad thing, or point my in the right direction? I am having a hard time getting my mind wrapped around this."
In simple terms, consider FedEx, UPS and the USPS. When you send a package, the cost is based on weight and volume in proportion to the resources needed to ship it. Net neutrality amounts to a government decree that flat rate shipping applies. The cost to ship a bowling ball or a post card is identical (even though the resources required to deliver are far from equal). Small e-mails are the postcards. Streaming 4k UHD movies are bowling balls. A movie monopolizes significant bandwidth for extended periods. E-mail and casual net browsing are bursty transfers with lots of idle time between uses. The kind of network infrastructure required to provide good service to those vastly different types of usage is significant. The ISP that provisions for 5,000 e-mail users and is suddenly saddled with 1,000 streaming movie watchers is going to have an angry customer base. Traffic can be segregated by type to utilize the network efficiently as provisioned. Want to watch movies? Then pay a rate for hardware that must be dedicated for hours on end to serve you.
131 posted on 12/14/2017 12:55:53 PM PST by Myrddin
In simple terms, consider FedEx, UPS and the USPS. When you send a package, the cost is based on weight and volume in proportion to the resources needed to ship it. Net neutrality amounts to a government decree that flat rate shipping applies. The cost to ship a bowling ball or a post card is identical (even though the resources required to deliver are far from equal). Small e-mails are the postcards. Streaming 4k UHD movies are bowling balls. A movie monopolizes significant bandwidth for extended periods. E-mail and casual net browsing are bursty transfers with lots of idle time between uses. The kind of network infrastructure required to provide good service to those vastly different types of usage is significant. The ISP that provisions for 5,000 e-mail users and is suddenly saddled with 1,000 streaming movie watchers is going to have an angry customer base. Traffic can be segregated by type to utilize the network efficiently as provisioned. Want to watch movies? Then pay a rate for hardware that must be dedicated for hours on end to serve you.
131 posted on 12/14/2017 12:55:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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Congratulations Donald Trump and Roy Moore! You are no longer the most hated men in America! [View all]
Initech
Dec 2017
OP
Nah, they are still two of the most hated men in the world. Now there is just one
smirkymonkey
Dec 2017
#6
The Trumpanzee core thinks Net Neutrality means Government Censorship
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2017
#8