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hack89

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42. Tens of millions of lawful gun owners

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:19 PM

Jul 2012

are not going to accept having their guns taken away to stop a tiny handful of killers. Especially since those killers will always have the means to commit mass murder regardless of what laws are passed. Our "war" on drugs should have taught you a few lessons that apply to this situation.

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About guns, [View all] MadHound Jul 2012 OP

In my 59 years on this Earth... 99Forever Jul 2012 #1

Oh, I'm quite handy with my fists, MadHound Jul 2012 #2

Nothing makes a.. 99Forever Jul 2012 #12

"Automatic weapons" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #24

Tell that to ... 99Forever Jul 2012 #27

The guy in CO did not have an automatic weapon 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #31

So fucking what? 99Forever Jul 2012 #37

You made a reference to automatic weapons 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #39

Again.. 99Forever Jul 2012 #43

To the dead? I don't suppose anything makes a difference 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #45

That's no fucking answer at all. 99Forever Jul 2012 #56

No, it was a fine answer 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #62

If you wish to be regarding seriously, yes, it does. Marengo Jul 2012 #40

It makes quite a significant difference Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #65

The point is having a shot gun should not be illegal but movonne Jul 2012 #53

What does a machine gun have to do with the tragedy in Colorado? DonP Jul 2012 #61

Who in this scenario had a machine gun? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

Is everyone else's life experience identical to yours? Marengo Jul 2012 #4

Nice strawman beatdown. 99Forever Jul 2012 #10

So, the answer is no I take it? Marengo Jul 2012 #36

Here is a 66 year old woman 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #22

It boggles the mind that people who are able to take "self-defense" courses think shadowrider Jul 2012 #33

It would make more sense if victims and criminals were roughly on par 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #38

And I live where they are mandatory if you are going to survive ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #57

Move. 99Forever Jul 2012 #58

Where? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #59

Somewhere where... 99Forever Jul 2012 #68

I view weapons as tools...and teach others to do the same ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #69

Why should he? Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #66

I usually just mind my own business and avoid confrontation. Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #3

I think most people avoid confrontation MadHound Jul 2012 #5

Can your 12 guage shout 60 rounds a minute? grattsl Jul 2012 #6

So again, how do you convince those thousands and thousands MadHound Jul 2012 #7

I haven't asked them to yet. grattsl Jul 2012 #11

Actually I can get pretty close to a round a second with my pump shotgun MadHound Jul 2012 #18

So wouldn't be smarter to not give that access to those crimanals? grattsl Jul 2012 #21

Criminals break into houses when the owners are not home and steal them Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #25

Criminals would have no access if these guns were not on the market in the first place. grattsl Jul 2012 #30

Let's assume for one second you get your way. Gun manufacturers are put out shadowrider Jul 2012 #46

Gun manufacturers out of business is NOT my way, NRA yes that's a start. grattsl Jul 2012 #64

Can you show me where I said the following?: shadowrider Jul 2012 #67

"you cannot control supply" If I assumed that meant control is impossible tell my what you meant grattsl Jul 2012 #70

I believe the odds of defending yourself v a death in the family from the gun is 46-1 Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #23

Here is a video from Rachel Maddow's show Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #44

You don't see the irony in your statement? The NRA defends gun rights shadowrider Jul 2012 #35

If teabaggers can call Obama a Nazi, I have no problem calling the NRA a terrorist organization! grattsl Jul 2012 #48

You are aware the NRA supported legislation bringing about NICS, right? n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #54

I respect your opinion. Tell me, if you want NRA members on the terror watch list shadowrider Jul 2012 #55

The real argument here is long term solutions v short term fixes Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #8

I think that long term solutions are indeed the best bet. MadHound Jul 2012 #14

Judging from the last 30 years, 2050 should be very safe. hack89 Jul 2012 #15

but the frequency of these mass murders are increasing Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #26

Tens of millions of lawful gun owners hack89 Jul 2012 #42

Why don't we change the terms of the conversation so that .. ananda Jul 2012 #9

What do you consider unregulated? MadHound Jul 2012 #13

Exactly the problem. It should not have been legal for him to buy these. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #29

So those 20,000 gun laws in America are not regulations? Didn't know that. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #16

Because that would be factually untrue. There are many, many regulations and laws involving guns. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #17

So, do you think I should have said.. ananda Jul 2012 #19

I think that is a more defensible statement of the current state of affairs. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #32

Sheesh shadowrider Jul 2012 #41

If you mean unregulated as in permatex Jul 2012 #28

I never thought about owning a gun until an incident at my house last year. Brickbat Jul 2012 #20

While I support your decision permatex Jul 2012 #34

One of my good friends here was a small-arms weapons instructor in the Marines. Brickbat Jul 2012 #49

Just what the doctor ordered permatex Jul 2012 #50

No point in doing it half-assed or wrong. Brickbat Jul 2012 #51

I wouldn't have taken it the wrong way permatex Jul 2012 #52

Tell ya' what, you go and argue your point with the families of the victims.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #47

What are you going to say to the literally thousands of people who have been killed with a gun? AndyA Jul 2012 #60