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In reply to the discussion: Holy shit... Ann Coulter is one bitter, old spinster... [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)56. -single folks don't get breaks on anything-
From a tax perspective, sure. But from a purely economic standpoint, if you want to trade my kids' tuition for a $1200 tax deduction, PM me your details, and I'd be happy to make that trade.
As pointed out above, raising kids - while voluntary like all other employment - is an unpaid job which, presumably, ultimately pays out benefits to society at large. That's the theory anyway, and I usually use the Social Security example, since it is the one I think about when the elementary school across the street is having a noisy activity or whatever.
As an economic proposition, the cost of children doesn't come anywhere near the tax benefit. You could take what other people spend on children, donate it to charity, and deduct the entire amount, if you are looking for a tax deduction of some kind.
Marry a 65 year old blind person, and you get two right at the top of the form!
Why does anyone get a tax break for being blind? I don't know, but I'm not sticking a pair of knitting needles in my eyes to find out.
As was also pointed out, there's a whole raft of laws that apply ONLY to parents. It's not simply out of kindness that parents feed, clothe, shelter, school, get medical care, etc., for children. They'll go to jail if they don't do those things, and then you, and everyone else, pays full boat for the care of those other people - who are also members of this society.
One workable alternative, I guess, is to get rid of parenting, and have everyone pay the full cost of raising the next generation of members of society.
There's also a benefit at the back-end, since a lot of children end up taking care of their elderly parents, which, again, would otherwise be a collective cost.
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While she is awful, I've long felt discriminated against because I'm single. n/t
Kirk Lover
Dec 2017
#1
Me too. & "BITTER OLD SPINSTER" Can the OP be more inappropriate/derisive towards women? REALLY?
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#4
If you don't know how demeaning it is to refer to an unmarried woman as a "bitter old spinster" you
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#41
You say you see the term in geneology and thus assumed it was fine. You surely also see the 'N' word
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#95
You insult half the population here with a disgusting slur and then complain that you are questioned
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#104
You're activating BS detectors all over this board. Are you telling us you really didn't know that..
brush
Dec 2017
#153
Very very odd to find it used for women as young as 20. I find that doubtful.
Tipperary
Dec 2017
#90
Indeed it was not. I'm not buying his explanation while deriding those of us who he has offended.
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#97
that term has been a slur (like the "c" word) for women since my Late Mother was a young woman
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#125
I doubt you are older than I & I am DONE apologizing when I am derided or otherwise verbally abused
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#133
I agree that it's sexist and unacceptable, but it's really not on the level as the "c word"
whathehell
Dec 2017
#182
We will have to disagree on this one. It is good to know you are another who embrace that term.
Tipperary
Dec 2017
#121
I know. Spinster? Wow, flashback to the days when women were defined by their marital status.
Tipperary
Dec 2017
#38
You were looking for the site where creepy old sexist terms are accepted? They're out there.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#140
You seem to be ridiculing the objection to the creepy old sexist term, which would suggest
Squinch
Dec 2017
#159
No one here has anything but total disdain for Coulter, but there are plenty of descriptors
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#190
Well I understand they are expensive and I really don't even oppose a tax credit,
Kirk Lover
Dec 2017
#22
I'm not speaking about raising kids and parenting and costs. I thought my posts made it clear that
Kirk Lover
Dec 2017
#165
I'd love to see politicians grilled on just why they feel single people and those
brewens
Dec 2017
#44
You all (well not all) are missing the real point and are fixating on the child care shit
Kirk Lover
Dec 2017
#166
I agree... but that isn't the issue for most of us on this subthread. I don't begrudge child credits
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#55
Did you read the OP? Really? Damn some here just DON'T get it. Misogyny and bigotry lives
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#60
YES, I want to defend women against derisive misogynistic comments from "supposed" progressive
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#65
Ahh, good more misogyny. Not surprised at you. But now you've shown your ..... to everyone
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#188
I do. I wonder what the op calls single men? I find this really sad to see that here.
Tipperary
Dec 2017
#62
You could flip it around the other way. Parents go to the trouble and expense of raising
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#109
Ann tarred single people that way -- I didn't. I think it's the opposite, based on the single people
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#147
If it makes her suffer a smidgeon of what she causes to others to suffer then I'm glad
lunatica
Dec 2017
#26
Bitter old spinster sounds like some regressive RW judge bullshit. Pls edit this crap.
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#13
She should move to a Libertarian Utopia. That's right, Libertarianism is unworkable bullshit fantasy
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2017
#14
Revealing the real reason some people in US dont want to fund societal good - jealousy.
suffragette
Dec 2017
#43
Well, Ms. Coulter, you reap what you sew. You have sewn hatred your entire life and
madinmaryland
Dec 2017
#46
She gets really frustrated sewing "Great Again" over and over on those hats. Wait, that's
rzemanfl
Dec 2017
#106
Yet, not a peep about her ilk who want women to be nothing but breeders pushing out tons of babies.
GoCubsGo
Dec 2017
#77
Wow are you seriously writing this? Really? This is an educational thread for me.
Tipperary
Dec 2017
#116
Give him time and he'll whip out the ole "c" word. Not all men are progressive here (or respectful)
hlthe2b
Dec 2017
#135
It's impossible to underestimate the disrespect some who post here have for women.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#137
Holy shit... You seem really comfortable using a creepy and monumentally sexist term...
Squinch
Dec 2017
#139