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Tejas

(4,759 posts) Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:38 PM Jul 2012

30,000+ traffic deaths per year, 1/3 are alcohol-related. [View all]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

Those figures are not acceptable, let's try and use more caution on the roadways. Don't need any new laws, don't need to ban cars, don't need to ban booze, just need to be considerate as we motor along.

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30,000+ traffic deaths per year, 1/3 are alcohol-related. [View all] Tejas Jul 2012 OP

Now that you've said it, that'll work. valerief Jul 2012 #1

cars have worthwhile purposes, unlike . . .. DrDan Jul 2012 #2

Unlike what? Marengo Jul 2012 #3

Unlike...........................................DISCO? Tejas Jul 2012 #6

And cars blasting disco definately have no worthwhile purpose Marengo Jul 2012 #49

Alcohol Crabby Appleton Jul 2012 #16

Does alcohol have a worthwhile purpose? hack89 Jul 2012 #15

no worthwhile purpose when coupled with a car - I agree completely DrDan Jul 2012 #20

Handling guns is a serious business hack89 Jul 2012 #23

AND GUN VIOLENCE!!! cliffordu Jul 2012 #33

So concentrating on alcohol will save many more lives. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #44

A lot more, if the past is any indication. cliffordu Jul 2012 #73

Hm, if the OP is correct 1/3 of 30,000 is 10,000 - which I believe is the amount of people killed Edweird Jul 2012 #35

did I ever say they had a worthwhile purpose? DrDan Jul 2012 #39

That's what I thought. Edweird Jul 2012 #48

so you are of the opinion that drunk drivers serve a worthwhile purpose . . . interesting DrDan Jul 2012 #54

Nope. I'm of the opinion that people that look at those numbers and condemn guns are hypocrites. Edweird Jul 2012 #59

I am condemning guns - as are many many here - just take a look DrDan Jul 2012 #60

What's the "worthwhile" purpose of alcohol as a beverage? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36

ban it . . . I am not arguing against that DrDan Jul 2012 #41

If we ban it will we finally be safe? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #42

of course not . . . there will still be guns DrDan Jul 2012 #47

Going by the numbers 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #50

fat people are a danger to themselves, not to the rest of us DrDan Jul 2012 #52

And their kids 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #55

at least there are worthwhile reasons to own and use an auto DrDan Jul 2012 #57

Really? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #61

ok - I concede with respect to fat parents DrDan Jul 2012 #75

You might want to tell the French or the Italians or the Spanish about how their wine is a CTyankee Jul 2012 #43

Sarcasm dude 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #45

Oh dear, you've never been to Europe? CTyankee Jul 2012 #53

? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #56

Yes, I am arguing that. In fact, your statement accurately states the problem right there. CTyankee Jul 2012 #62

Don't know how to say this but you're wrong 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

Well, your own chart will show you how far down the list Italy and France are. Spain does not CTyankee Jul 2012 #65

So you're one of those Americans who thinks Europe = Italy/France/Spain 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #66

Wow, I never saw that. I just saw ordinary people going about their ordinary routine. CTyankee Jul 2012 #67

if they ever examine our obsession with guns, they will be sure of it DrDan Jul 2012 #58

I don't talk about guns with Europeans when I am there because I am too embarrassed. CTyankee Jul 2012 #64

yep - John Wayne always seems to get into the conversation, doesn't he DrDan Jul 2012 #74

Studies have shown moderate drinkers live longer. former9thward Jul 2012 #69

great, thanks for solving this problem quinnox Jul 2012 #4

Essentially ALL traffic deaths are ACCIDENTAL. Including the impaired ones. Loudly Jul 2012 #5

Some are premeditated murder. Tejas Jul 2012 #10

Like the angry ex-wife running over the ex-husband? Loudly Jul 2012 #11

So if someone chooses to get drunk and chooses to drive and then *accidentally* kills someone 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #40

No, most are the cause of negligence Marengo Jul 2012 #51

How many of those deaths are intentionally caused? Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #7

Since people are going to drink anyway, let's just let EVERYONE drink anytime they want. Lex Jul 2012 #8

Good point. So how about making guns at least as big of a pain in the ass to own as cars? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #9

A 10yr old can drive 100mph (or faster) on private property. Tejas Jul 2012 #12

Only if no speed limit signs are posted, girl gone mad Jul 2012 #19

None of that applies on private property. Tejas Jul 2012 #24

You're wrong. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #71

Cite please? Tejas Jul 2012 #72

3,000+ died on 9/11 Ezlivin Jul 2012 #13

I'm sure there are plenty of 'considerate' drunks. piperpibroch Jul 2012 #14

Alcoholism is genetic, elleng Jul 2012 #30

So predictable. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #17

Don't let it get you down, keep your chin up, Tejas Jul 2012 #18

get rid of your guns DrDan Jul 2012 #22

My gun(s)...which has/have *what* to do with traffic deaths? Tejas Jul 2012 #25

you asked for advice . . . just offering up some DrDan Jul 2012 #26

Are you being obtuse on purpose? Tejas Jul 2012 #31

"and feel free to offer any advice you might have. " DrDan Jul 2012 #34

better public transportation would be a good start BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #21

I would love a train route around town! Tejas Jul 2012 #27

Right, and the 10% of the population which is alcoholic should know better, right? elleng Jul 2012 #28

That is why I don't drive after drinking more than one drink. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #29

Guns and automobiles are sacred in the USA. hunter Jul 2012 #32

It used to be over 54,000 (Early 70's) ThoughtCriminal Jul 2012 #37

Self-driving cars will fix this problem Taverner Jul 2012 #38

And self shooting guns will solve the gun killing problem.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #46

They'll also make it easier for the government to get you to the tax office woo me with science Jul 2012 #68

Details! Details! Taverner Jul 2012 #70

Every single one of them involve intertia. n/t 2on2u Jul 2012 #76

30K is the lowest level since the 1940's Spider Jerusalem Jul 2012 #77

You know the thing about drinking is madokie Jul 2012 #78