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kpete

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Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:49 AM Dec 2017

Panic in Email Land [View all]

That Sinking Feeling
I suspect they now fear (no doubt rightly) that Trump officials lied during their interviews with the Special Counsel’s office and the investigators already had the emails that proved they were lying.

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The simple fact is that they were caught off guard, something that has happened numerous times through this saga. Criminal investigation is in a way like a war. Within the law, it is part of the process that you want to keep the other side guessing as much as possible. But if you’ve watched the investigation closely, there have been numerous occasions when the Trump team appears to have been caught totally off guard by developments they likely should have had at least some inkling of. They’re upset because they didn’t do their homework on the legal status of those emails. As my friend Garance Franke-Ruta archly puts it, always read the terms of service!

One might speculate that Trump’s lawyers know they have no legal case here but are playing this up as part of a “Mueller’s out of control/breaking the law” narrative. It’s certainly being played that way on Fox. Certainly there’s some of that. But my guess is that they’re genuinely surprised. And since they’re surprised they assume Mueller cheated. (Is it possible Mueller did something wrong? Sure. Who knows? If so, I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. But I doubt it. And none of the legal commentary I’ve seen suggests he did.) Beyond that, however, I suspect they now fear (no doubt rightly) that Trump officials lied during their interviews with the Special Counsel’s office and the investigators already had the emails that proved they were lying. That’s a real sinking feeling for everyone involved.


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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/17/1725394/-Panic-in-Email-Land
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Panic in Email Land [View all] kpete Dec 2017 OP
Must be some interesting emails in this group. Funny now the shoe is on the other foot the Thinkingabout Dec 2017 #1
Exactly. Their response is telling us that there is damning info in the emails.nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #2
Trumps behavior from Comeys firing to now screams guilt YessirAtsaFact Dec 2017 #5
Yes, exactly. Everything points to guilt. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #9
If the cover-up is successful, THAT becomes the evidence of guilt. sofa king Dec 2017 #27
Then there is the political reality. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #33
Yep. sofa king Dec 2017 #43
We know why. Money and power are the only things that matters to them. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #44
No doubt about that! sofa king Dec 2017 #48
Typically the GOP drains the economy and treasury when they have power. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #49
Yep, idiots all. What is it with them? Doesn't everyone know to never put anything in emails... brush Dec 2017 #22
I simply do not understand how Trump's people are caught off guard over Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #3
Its a white collar crime family YessirAtsaFact Dec 2017 #7
Yes I agree, but even still, they are not novices to legal problems Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #12
Their strengths are in civil courts... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #19
And Trump has been successful with PR campaigns to discredit others Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #34
Not going to google that here and now, but... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #37
"Won't pay his attorney bills" is the kiss of death in legal circles. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #39
They are not very good at criminaling. lapislzi Dec 2017 #14
And the WH staff must be weak and incompetent too. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #16
Bite your tongue! Trump only hires the best people... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #38
The psychology of the Trump family and team is unbelievable. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #41
Trump feels he can sell shit to a shoe shine boy... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #45
Yes Willy Loman goes to the White House. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #47
They get caught off guard because they think they are above the law and the entire iluvtennis Dec 2017 #21
Yes they know Mueller followed the law. They are just litigating the issue Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #35
Look at their legal team NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #24
Lives by the voices in his head - truth iluvtennis Dec 2017 #50
When you live in an alternative reality, actual reality can bite you. hvn_nbr_2 Dec 2017 #25
The number of people on the Trump team who are arrogant, stupid and Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #36
Certainly is like Hitler believing that Germany was winning the war. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #42
Arrogance and incompetence. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2017 #30
"Criminal investigation is in a way like a war. " Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #4
The emails Mueller has are transition team emails. NOT campaign-time emails. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #6
Have you seen some of Trump's lawyers? Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #11
They placed a toadie running interference on the emails - Maine-i-acs Dec 2017 #13
One of Red Don's folk already wrote in an email that Russia threw the election to Trump and that uponit7771 Dec 2017 #17
Post-campaign they will discuss how to pro the quid of the pre-campaign quid pro quo promises. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #26
not true.... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #28
Plus the Transition team culled out the incriminating ones, claiming privilege. So Mueller Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #29
I hope you're right (I say as a smile comes across my face).... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #40
I hope they take it to court. kentuck Dec 2017 #8
They not only lied, Mueller knew what the lies would be before asking the questions! L. Coyote Dec 2017 #10
A good lawyer never asks a question they don't already know the answer to underpants Dec 2017 #46
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #15
Makes me giggle. Hilarious. ffr Dec 2017 #18
It occurred to me that Mueller could have gotten thousands of emails from Flynn and Vinca Dec 2017 #20
I hope some are scrambling to make cooperative arrangements with Mueller to tblue37 Dec 2017 #23
This: maybe even some of the GOP House and Senate players. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #31
The Trump rats walked right into it EricMaundry Dec 2017 #32
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