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handmade34

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104. interesting...

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 02:08 PM

Jul 2012

as I am someone who often likes to point out the tremendous negative impact factory farming of animals has on our environment and that it would be reasonable to cut our consumption... the response if all too often "you can't tell me what to eat!!" even though that person may claim to care about global climate change and/or the environment...

too often all of us say "I care, as long as I don't have to change my habits" NIMBY

hence, one of my reasons for believing that we desperately need a strong gov't 'of and by the (collective) people' a group can be more objective and rational, whereas individuals can often be very irrational

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Been here a lot today. Haven't seen the post were the gun owners posted their feeling of sorrow [View all] upaloopa Jul 2012 OP

You haven't? They're all over the place! Scootaloo Jul 2012 #1

I feel as much frustration at the failure to stop this idiot, as I feel sorrow. Zalatix Jul 2012 #80

Badda bing! It certainly seems it with all this gun spam in freakin' GD! nt valerief Jul 2012 #101

busy with defending the guns and nra....can't have a good killing movonne Jul 2012 #108

Why did you expect that? Their job is to sell guns, not to feel sorrow. nt babylonsister Jul 2012 #2

so anyone who owns a gun is attempting to sell them too azurnoir Jul 2012 #41

Sorry, I missed your original premise. babylonsister Jul 2012 #46

The premise of the OP is that gun owners on DU haven't expressed their sorrow azurnoir Jul 2012 #48

....not hard to locate if you cared to.... Tsiyu Jul 2012 #64

Thank you I wasn't around at the time it run but thank you azurnoir Jul 2012 #81

No problema, azurnoir Tsiyu Jul 2012 #94

I only see two RKBA posters in that thread. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #122

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jul 2012 #86

They sorrow is hidden under their love of guns samsingh Jul 2012 #3

Wow GarroHorus Jul 2012 #4

No it's not but the Muslim community did express sorrow for 9/11. upaloopa Jul 2012 #9

Since you brought it up AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #72

Well, the difference is most Muslims *DID* express sorrow over 9/11. baldguy Jul 2012 #12

Most gun owners DID expres sorrow over the events of July 20 GarroHorus Jul 2012 #14

And yet with this perfect opportunity to do so, we still don't see any. baldguy Jul 2012 #21

That is PRECISELY what the wingnuts said about Muslims after 9/11 GarroHorus Jul 2012 #22

The OP didn't demand that anyone do anything. Fridays Child Jul 2012 #17

The OP has impled it multiple times in multiple threads GarroHorus Jul 2012 #20

You have the OP on ignore? Oh, you precious, fragile little thing, you! baldguy Jul 2012 #24

Life is short GarroHorus Jul 2012 #28

Seems like you're ignoring the moderates on one side & playing with the extremists on the other. baldguy Jul 2012 #32

so making sweeping statemnets about DUers is moderate in your view? azurnoir Jul 2012 #40

uh, yeah...... alittlelark Jul 2012 #54

Uh if you have the OP on ignore. Puglover Jul 2012 #87

Aren't hey just precious? DainBramaged Jul 2012 #38

How are you posting in this thread with the OP on ignore? morningfog Jul 2012 #114

someone alerted your post here are bthe jury results azurnoir Jul 2012 #44

Of course people are sorrowful! That is the reason I want gun laws strengthened! adigal Jul 2012 #97

They have no sorrow, or remorse for what happened, or compassion for those killed & injured. baldguy Jul 2012 #5

And of course you immediately expressed compassion and sorrow... krispos42 Jul 2012 #71

Oh yes, that's it. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #74

And how do you KNOW this? Are you a mentalist? Marengo Jul 2012 #93

You should read more posts then Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #6

Well maybe you can express sorrow over the idea that more mass killings will bring on more gun upaloopa Jul 2012 #11

I resent Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #25

"I'll cry for the dead, just as long as I can keep my guns." baldguy Jul 2012 #35

Only Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #37

Good point. Insincerity hits the mark. cyclezealot Jul 2012 #45

Ok Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #47

Does not matter to us.. cyclezealot Jul 2012 #51

Interesting Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #55

A freedom lost that you don't miss cyclezealot Jul 2012 #60

Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #63

Enjoy your night out at the movies.. cyclezealot Jul 2012 #65

I do also Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #66

Even though our US base has low crime rates. cyclezealot Jul 2012 #68

interesting... handmade34 Jul 2012 #104

Good point. And accept not policing/regulating their fellows will rightly bring trouble on them. freshwest Jul 2012 #26

I agree Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #30

Which will require investing in healthcare and mental health parity for the good of all, not profit. freshwest Jul 2012 #34

We really should move as quickly as possible to a single payer system. Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #42

Can't happen with the current house, but we have out foot in the door now, and that is where we need freshwest Jul 2012 #53

Yes, exactly Scootaloo Jul 2012 #23

As soon as the NRA tells them to quit shitting their beds Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #7

The majority of gun owners... Wait Wut Jul 2012 #16

But the NRA plays the tune they all dance to. baldguy Jul 2012 #36

Oh, that's right. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #43

Interesting Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #59

Then my comments don't apply to you. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #49

not all gun owners abolugi Jul 2012 #8

How do you expect that sorrow to manifest itself? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #10

Thank you. ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #52

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #13

Well everyone has one you to. Where is the demand buy gun owners to find solutions to mass murder? upaloopa Jul 2012 #19

No. What you haven't seen is... Wait Wut Jul 2012 #15

How about something like this. "What a tragedy, Gun owners and non gun owners should come together upaloopa Jul 2012 #27

Yeah...that's called being a voter. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #39

Why, so you will feel better? ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #56

If you support strict regulations than your not the problem. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #123

Posting statements like 'it's such a shame' about the loss of life. mahina Jul 2012 #18

Some gun owners have Tsiyu Jul 2012 #29

fwiw, haven't seen a lot of posts.... chknltl Jul 2012 #31

Well you should have been in a Democratic Party County Fair Booth with me today IADEMO2004 Jul 2012 #33

Face to Face SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #78

Not surprising, really. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #50

Thank you - ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #57

Try it. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #58

You're no psychic Tsiyu Jul 2012 #62

Agreed. Union Scribe Jul 2012 #76

I considered posting a Silent thread in Memoriam but, rejected it upon further reflection. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #89

Sure thing Tsiyu Jul 2012 #95

already replied. find it odd that so few DUers replied. thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #96

Yeah, I saw that after I posted the link again Tsiyu Jul 2012 #98

really? somehow I doubt that. --- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #99

We'll have to disagree on taste Tsiyu Jul 2012 #100

the OP could have started his own memorial thread Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #103

WEll, the OP's question was one I myself asked on several threads Tsiyu Jul 2012 #105

the thing is I don't come to DU looking for gun psychos. so how would I expect a thread to be Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #107

Don't quite get what you're saying about that Tsiyu Jul 2012 #110

point is only ONE thread was started and I don't know if that person is a gun owner or not. -- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #112

I already said my prayers for the victims and families permatex Jul 2012 #61

Understand where you are coming from but..... dtom67 Jul 2012 #67

Then you haven't been looking very hard. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #69

Jury results on your OP. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2012 #70

I have seen gun owners on DU and other forums express the need for stricter gun laws. jillan Jul 2012 #73

Promotion and glamorization of guns is like tobacco. Reducing that Hoyt Jul 2012 #128

But just think of all the people who didn't get shot that day. Crunchy Frog Jul 2012 #75

You're painting people with broad strokes rppper Jul 2012 #77

I'm a progressive and a gun owner clayton72 Jul 2012 #79

Great post! I especially B Calm Jul 2012 #82

It is a losing issue! clayton72 Jul 2012 #119

This has been here almost 8 hrs, and what do we see? Still no expressions of sorrow from gun owners. baldguy Jul 2012 #83

I'm sorry that some nut decided to decided to shoot up a theater full of people SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #106

And, of course, in the end, it IS all about YOU n/t Tsiyu Jul 2012 #113

Nope, not at all SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #116

I see n/t Tsiyu Jul 2012 #117

Typical response: "If you think I feel any guilt, you don't know me very well!" Pholus Jul 2012 #84

Think of every other human endeavor when tragedies happen and deaths occur. baldguy Jul 2012 #85

What the hell are you talking about? Union Scribe Jul 2012 #121

And here is the cluelessness of gun worshipers is on full display. baldguy Jul 2012 #124

I don't own a gun, much less worship them Union Scribe Jul 2012 #125

And now you double-down..... baldguy Jul 2012 #127

No, they don't. None of the groups you describe Union Scribe Jul 2012 #129

too shocked too post. waiting for more information so that one can make an intelligent post rather Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #88

Sorrow? Are gun owners guilty of something? pintobean Jul 2012 #90

WTF is wrong with you? So you want 1000s of individual posts of sorrow? How about this Einstein, Logical Jul 2012 #91

I'm a gun owner. I'm shocked. I feel sorrow. That was just wrong on every level. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #92

The metal phallus has no feelings. nt valerief Jul 2012 #102

mmmmm------you should say gun nuts Skittles Jul 2012 #109

I'm NOT a gun owner...... soccer1 Jul 2012 #115

R#30 & K for, love to this O.P. & g'night I'm gone. n/t UTUSN Jul 2012 #118

Come to think of it, I haven't seen yours either. Zorra Jul 2012 #120

Agreed most seem to parrot the nra bullshit gopiscrap Jul 2012 #126