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Gothmog

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43. The GOP does not rely on secret codes but on good old fashion voter suppression efforts
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 07:33 PM
Dec 2017

I volunteer in the area of voter protection. The state party and others try to discourage talk about fixed machines in that this suppresses the vote. It is hard enough to get voters out to vote without telling them that the system if fixed. There are mechanism and testing in place that makes me believe that there is no fix in place.

I am one the team that has watched the certification and testing of machines each cycle. A very boring job but is necessary. Basically each machine is tested to confirm that all candidates are properly on each ballot and then a zero tape is run to show that there are no votes on the machine. Every state has some sort of certification and testing system in place. I have talked to programmers and it would be difficult to fix the machines used in most counties in Texas without getting into the hardware which would not be easy. Again, test votes and other tests are done each cycle to make sure that each judge booth controller (the unit that counts the vote) are set at zero votes and then there is a special seal placed on each machine. If that seal is broken, then that machine will be tested to make sure that there was no tampering. There are three redundant counters in the JBCs used by my county that can only be accessed by taking the machine apart. It would be very difficult to fix such a machine.

If the GOP had a magical fix or computer bug that would give them these elections, the GOP would not be so busy using normal voter suppression tactics. . I helped trained 200+ poll watchers and helped organized and ran a statewide voter protection hotlines. The GOP relies on standard voter suppression tactics like voter id laws. We got a great ruling in Texas so that any registered voter could vote with among other things a voter registration card (one is issued to each voter each cycle), a bank statement or bill if they signed an affidavit. The GOP stilled tried to cheat by having poll greeters tell voters that they need ids to get into polling location (we stopped this fairly quickly).

There was a motion filed today in the Texas voter id case to lift the stay on the injunction declaring the Texas voter id law void http://electionlawblog.org/?p=96463 Even if that stay is not lifted, the plaintiffs have won significant victories that still allow any voter to vote with a number of forms of id if they sign an affidavit. The Democrats won a great victory here but the GOP is fighting like crazy to keep what is left of the Texas voter id law in place.

Democrats are fighting voter suppression. I honestly do not believe that the machines used in my county are fixed and I trust the measures used to test these machines.

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Winning at the ballot box insures nothing ksoze Dec 2017 #1
Republicans are authoritarian fascists Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #2
OK, then. Ignore the 2018 midterms. MineralMan Dec 2017 #3
BINGO111 tonyt53 Dec 2017 #27
Like 2010, Obama hadnt fixed 200 yrs of fuck ups in 2 years so you know who told Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #29
Look at what the GOP did to Obama in 2009 and 2012. Initech Dec 2017 #55
your statement is absurd rtracey Dec 2017 #10
This isn't about the White House BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #20
In the House in particular, the minority party has few if any rights Gothmog Dec 2017 #4
Apparently, a lot of people, even on DU, are unfamiliar MineralMan Dec 2017 #6
Sadly to most, it works in the manner that they read on facebook. They have no idea how it really is tonyt53 Dec 2017 #30
I agree with your analysis Gothmog Dec 2017 #39
KnR and a deep sigh Hekate Dec 2017 #5
I wish we could get everyone into the fight. MineralMan Dec 2017 #7
again bdamomma Dec 2017 #9
I will join you in bdamomma Dec 2017 #8
Votes nahant Dec 2017 #11
Actually, in 2016, repub House Candidates got more votes than Democratic House Candidates onenote Dec 2017 #36
But DEMS have to kick ass and take names if they get in the majority again! And let's make OUR laws BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #12
There are no PERMANENT laws in our system. MineralMan Dec 2017 #16
Thanks for your lecture. Are you familiar with "PERMANENT TAX CUTS"? BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #37
So, you are saying, "Let's pretend" dumbcat Dec 2017 #44
That's. . . that's just stupid, honestly. nt Codeine Dec 2017 #45
So lets see...you two would have called The New Deal BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #49
All this means is that these tax cuts do not automatically expire Gothmog Dec 2017 #53
IIRC Obama BOLDLY EXTENDED the "permanent" Bush tax cuts BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #56
That was part of a compromise Gothmog Dec 2017 #60
Thanks, I was around, I know all about it, but you're making my point for me BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #61
I live in the real world and compromises are part of the real world Gothmog Dec 2017 #62
We are in total agreement on that, I just long for some ROBUST campaigning that creates a tsunami of BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #63
Agreed Gothmog Dec 2017 #64
Well, there is speaking out against horrible legislation ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #13
Yes, of course people are speaking out against those things. MineralMan Dec 2017 #19
Theyre not watching C-SPAN RandySF Dec 2017 #28
Every time I see one of those "why aren't the Democrats..." laments, I mcar Dec 2017 #14
Thank you. It's hard to believe anyone would argue with your OP . . . but of course someone did. nt pnwmom Dec 2017 #15
It's the RepubliCONgress. They have no excuses now. All the crap is RepubliCON. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #17
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #18
When do we start saying the voting system failed us? ck4829 Dec 2017 #21
THIS!!!! +1000 nt diva77 Dec 2017 #23
Worked just fine in Minnesota. If it doesn't work where you are, MineralMan Dec 2017 #24
as long as computerized voting equipment is used in elections you can never say for sure that the diva77 Dec 2017 #25
We use paper ballots that are read by optical scanners. MineralMan Dec 2017 #31
I still stand by my statement. Just because you "know" a voting system does not mean that it is diva77 Dec 2017 #35
The GOP does not rely on secret codes but on good old fashion voter suppression efforts Gothmog Dec 2017 #43
In between (and during elections) we also need to work on restoring the 4th Estate!! nt diva77 Dec 2017 #22
It's dead. Codeine Dec 2017 #46
Many also assume RandySF Dec 2017 #26
Yabbut, the current Congress is pushing measures through and MineralMan Dec 2017 #33
These votes are based on partisan decisions and not on polls or public opinion Gothmog Dec 2017 #40
Virginia is getting its act together stpetegreg Dec 2017 #32
Yes. That was quite a success story! MineralMan Dec 2017 #34
Well you are preaching to the choir here. DUers are informed voters. YOHABLO Dec 2017 #38
Not as much as you think, really. MineralMan Dec 2017 #57
Thx for pointing this out. When I was in high school, Civics was not an elective, it was required. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #41
I'll remind you that politics is the art of the possible. aikoaiko Dec 2017 #42
Ah yes. Cary Dec 2017 #48
VOTE DEMOCRATIC! Cary Dec 2017 #47
I've read idiots on twitter suggest Schumer has some serious sway over bills brought to floor JHan Dec 2017 #50
Agreed-as minority leader Schumer has no say on what is brought to the floor Gothmog Dec 2017 #54
Gee, ya know you're right still_one Dec 2017 #51
It's the old "Green Lantern" theory of politics... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #52
What makes me laugh is Republican Congresscritters moping about how the Dems won't help librechik Dec 2017 #58
They sure are mercuryblues Dec 2017 #59
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