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In reply to the discussion: Cuban President Raul Castro: US Must Lift Embargo And Give Back Guantanamo To Normalize Relations [View all]Mika
(17,751 posts)15. Care to show us the exact language that states that? Thanks.
Here's the lease ...
Lease to the United States by the Government of Cuba of Certain Areas of Land and Water for Naval or Coaling Stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda; July 2, 1903
Signed at Habana, July 2, 1903;
Approved by the President, October 2, 1903;
Ratified by the President of Cuba, August 17,1903;
Ratifications exchanged at Washington, October 6,1903
The United States of America and the Republic of Cuba, being desirous to conclude the conditions of the lease of areas of land and water for the establishment of naval or coaling stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda the Republic of Cuba made to the United States by the Agreement of February 16/23,1903, in fulfillment of the provisions of Article Seven of the Constitutional Appendix of the Republic of Cuba, have appointed their Plenipotentiaries to that end.-
The President of the United States of America, Herbert G. Squiers, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary in Havana.
And the President of the Republic of Cuba, Jose M. Garcia Montes, Secretary of Finance, and acting Secretary of State and Justice, who, after communicating to each other their respective full powers, found to be in due form, have agreed upon the following Articles;-
Signed at Habana, July 2, 1903;
Approved by the President, October 2, 1903;
Ratified by the President of Cuba, August 17,1903;
Ratifications exchanged at Washington, October 6,1903
The United States of America and the Republic of Cuba, being desirous to conclude the conditions of the lease of areas of land and water for the establishment of naval or coaling stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda the Republic of Cuba made to the United States by the Agreement of February 16/23,1903, in fulfillment of the provisions of Article Seven of the Constitutional Appendix of the Republic of Cuba, have appointed their Plenipotentiaries to that end.-
The President of the United States of America, Herbert G. Squiers, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary in Havana.
And the President of the Republic of Cuba, Jose M. Garcia Montes, Secretary of Finance, and acting Secretary of State and Justice, who, after communicating to each other their respective full powers, found to be in due form, have agreed upon the following Articles;-
ARTICLE I
The United States of America agrees and covenants to pay to the Republic of Cuba the annual sum of two thousand dollars, in gold coin of the United States, as long as the former shall occupy and use said areas of land by virtue of said agreement.
All private lands and other real property within said areas shall be acquired forthwith by the Republic of Cuba.
The United States of America agrees to furnish to the Republic of Cuba the sums necessary for the purchase of said private lands and properties and such sums shall be accepted by the Republic of Cuba as advance payment on account of rental due by virtue of said Agreement.
ARTICLE II
The said areas shall be surveyed and their boundaries distinctly marked by permanent fences or inclosures.
The expenses of construction and maintenance of such fences or inclosures shall be borne by the United States.
ARTICLE III
The United States of America agrees that no person, partnership, or corporation shall be permitted to establish or maintain a commercial, industrial or other enterprise within said areas.
ARTICLE IV
Fugitives from justice charged with crimes or misdemeanors amenable to Cuban Law, taking refuge within said areas, shall be delivered up by the United States authorities on demand by duly authorized Cuban authorities.
On the other hand the Republic of Cuba agrees that fugitives from justice charged with crimes or misdemeanors amenable to United States law, committed within said areas, taking refuge in Cuban territory, shall on demand, be delivered up to duly authorized United States authorities.
ARTICLE V
Materials of all kinds, merchandise, stores and munitions of war imported into said areas for exclusive use and consumption therein, shall not be subject to payment of customs duties nor any other fees or charges and the vessels which may carry same shall not be subject to payment of port, tonnage, anchorage or other fees, except in case said vessels shall be discharged without the limits of said areas; and said vessels shall not be discharged without the limits of said areas otherwise than through a regular port of entry of the Republic of Cuba when both cargo and vessel shall be subject to all Cuban Customs laws and regulations and payment of corresponding duties and fees.
It is further agreed that such materials, merchandise, stores and munitions of war shall not be transported from said areas into Cuban territory.
ARTICLE VI
Except as provided in the preceding Article, vessels entering into or departing from the Bays of Guantanamo and Bahia Honda within the limits of Cuban territory shall be subject exclusively to Cuban laws and authorities and orders emanating from the latter in all that respects port police, Customs or Health, and authorities of the United States shall place no obstacle in the way of entrance and departure of said vessels except in case of a state of war.
ARTICLE VII
This lease shall be ratified and the ratifications shall be exchanged in the City of Washington within seven months from this date.
In witness whereof, We, the respective Plenipotentiaries, have signed this lease and hereunto affixed our Seals.
Done at Havana, in duplicate in English and Spanish this second day of July nineteen hundred and three.
JOSE M. GARCIA MONTES [SEAL]
H. G. SQUIERS [SEAL]
I, Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the foregoing lease, do hereby approve the same, by virtue of the authority conferred by the seventh of the provisions defining the relations which are to exist between the United States and Cuba, contained in the Act of Congress approved March 2, 1901, entitled "An Act making appropriation for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June 30,1902."
Washington, October 2, 1903.
THEODORE ROOSEVELT.
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Cuban President Raul Castro: US Must Lift Embargo And Give Back Guantanamo To Normalize Relations [View all]
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
OP
That's unfortunate - I don't see any scenario in which the US gives back Guantanamo Bay
George II
Jan 2015
#1
"Except that a lease may be terminated by the lessor." if stipulated in the lease..
EX500rider
Jan 2015
#43
He's referring to the "gov't" that Teddy Roosevelt & his roughriders put in power.
Mika
Jan 2015
#73
If the US was "Imperlists" in 1903 Cuba would have been a US state after we..
EX500rider
Jan 2015
#84
It is leased, until "no longer necessary", which isn't very specific. We paid roughly $200 a year..
George II
Jan 2015
#19
True bullying at its finest. It was accomplished in 1903 with the "Provisional President."
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
#60
I lived in the US Virgin Islands and a normalization of relations with Cuba
QuestionAlways
Jan 2015
#47
... or give up the Panama Canal, or turn its back on the Shah of Iran or turn over Subic Bay........
marble falls
Jan 2015
#61
Why not? The base was created in what has since been discredited, a war years ago.
freshwest
Jan 2015
#23
+1 If anything, I think closing Guantanamo will help us in the prestige dept. nt
snappyturtle
Jan 2015
#49
Sorry, for some reason I can't see #47. So that doesn't answer my question. Who posted it, or who
freshwest
Jan 2015
#58
I support what they did but have always noticed how STUPID the USA is regarding Cuba
flamingdem
Jan 2015
#81
I think this is the way Guantanamo will be closed without congress. Thanks to President O.
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#121
I think they have the right to ask for it to be returned. Also, it's not about national pride.
freshwest
Jan 2015
#115
Odd-- the same thing was said about simply opening better relations with Cuba, too.
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#107
Mission accomplished. That's what the US sanctions intended to do. Impoverish the people of Cuba.
Mika
Jan 2015
#36
We are an imperialistic country. We will do what makes money for our Oligarch Rulers.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#46
I think its the opposite. Cuba doesn't have sweatshops making Nike shoes and Sony TVs.
Mika
Jan 2015
#50
can also fly to cuba from canada/mexico no passport is needed. people do this all the time.
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#122
FYI, if you don't qualify under the new regs, it is still illegal for you to go. eom
Mika
Jan 2015
#124
To give back Gitmo, US would have to disinter and dispose of all their murder victims
Demeter
Jan 2015
#11
I don't see the US giving Guantanamo back any time soon, but the lifting of the embargo will
hughee99
Jan 2015
#12
You think Cuba will hold up normalized relations with one of the largest economies in the world
hughee99
Jan 2015
#80
Did they mention the 6,000 American owned properties they seized? (and never paid for)
EX500rider
Jan 2015
#13
Did you mention compensation was offered decades ago and people in other countries,
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
#14
The payment was to be made in Cuban bonds—an idea that was not taken seriously by the United States
EX500rider
Jan 2015
#16
So U.S. owners, like the George H. W. Bush relatives decided the arrangements taken by others
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
#45
They knew that the US long game plan was to impoverish Cuba. Of course they wanted cash.
Mika
Jan 2015
#56
You seem to have forgotten US-supported monster Fulgencio Batista took the Cuban Treasury
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
#55
And exactly who where those 6,000 Americans that "owned" property in Cuba?
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#48
Interesting thing about the 1%. When they gamble on stocks or derivitives or
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#103
I don't think the USofA should use their bully powers to see that corporations like that
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#106
Cuba might be better off negotiating for the US to turn atleast part of Guantanamo
cstanleytech
Jan 2015
#18
Makes sense though I mean why have a large military when you are on an island that doesnt really
cstanleytech
Jan 2015
#42
Yes and since that stupidity they have not tried and why should they? Cuba doesnt hold any real
cstanleytech
Jan 2015
#63
If the people who run the U.S. have no interests in invading Cuba, why did Pres. Dwight Eisenhower
Judi Lynn
Jan 2015
#69
You are talking from decades ago but I am talking currently and currently barring anything
cstanleytech
Jan 2015
#72
Why? For having the audacity to ask us to give up our hub of villainy on their island?
TheKentuckian
Jan 2015
#98