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32. You sound like Helmut Kohl in the eighties
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jan 2015

who systematically nurtured this kind of 'patriotism'. One way to promote it was to whine about how 'we are not supposed to' be proud. He also introduced the public pledge of allegiance of Bundeswehr soldiers and the main programs on national TV started to sign off daily by playing the national anthem and showing the flag during his reign.

As to Germans not being 'okay with themselves showing patriotism or national pride' during World Cups, that is a hilarious proposition indeed ... starting with the 'Miracle of Bern', where Germans saw their national pride restored, (West-)Germans have always seen themselves as a world power in football just as they thought of themselves as an economic powerhouse having created the 'Wirtschaftswunder'...



Thankfully, most Germans do have some reservations about hooray patriotism and vapid acts like hoisting the national flag in front of their house for no reason. But I could point you to several such flags flying right now in my immediate neighborhood, and these flags have been flying there for decades.

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This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Jan 2015 #21
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I was wondering if someone was going to catch that DFW Jan 2015 #26
Yep. For one thing, the Berlin Wall fell in 1989. SheilaT Jan 2015 #15
Germans were the first to call it 'annexation' reorg Jan 2015 #20
German culture was different back then. DetlefK Jan 2015 #23
You sound like Helmut Kohl in the eighties reorg Jan 2015 #32
This is from "The Onion," right? Because.....Ukraine! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #6
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I'll give you that one. Adrahil Jan 2015 #35
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Germany is actually a wee bit away from Russia... DetlefK Jan 2015 #25
lol RiverNoord Jan 2015 #33
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Would there be a GDR without the terrorism and sabotage ? jakeXT Jan 2015 #29
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