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In reply to the discussion: Police: 9 shot at Tenn. nightclub Christmas party [View all]ellisonz
(27,776 posts)58. Enjoy.
Guns dont kill people; people kill people.
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
An armed society is a polite society.
Who hasnt heard these engaging assertions, time and time again? Burned into the national consciousness by years of targeted, disciplined messaging by the National Rifle Association and others, they are just a few of the bumper-sticker slogans that have defined the gun control debate in America. Long ridiculed by gun control advocates, they are the first words that come to mind for most Americans when the gun issue is discussed.
This is the first book both to acknowledge the profound and deadly impact of the gun lobbys bumper-sticker logic on the gun control debate and to systematically expose the misguided thinking at the core of the pro-gun slogans. Indeed, the author contends that the gun lobbys remarkable success in blocking passage of lifesaving gun laws is the result, in large part, of its relentless and effective use of these simple and resonant messages. Their persuasive power has been a largely ignored influence on the current politics of gun control, in which the gun lobby wields unprecedented power in the Republican Party, while many Democratic Party leaders see the policy benefits of stronger gun laws as not worth the political risk of standing up to the NRA. The book contends that the current political stalemate over guns will never be broken until the pro-gun slogans are exposed as the cleverly disguised fallacies that they are.
http://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Logic-Exploding-Paralyze-American/dp/B002YX0FCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324893259&sr=8-1
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
An armed society is a polite society.
Who hasnt heard these engaging assertions, time and time again? Burned into the national consciousness by years of targeted, disciplined messaging by the National Rifle Association and others, they are just a few of the bumper-sticker slogans that have defined the gun control debate in America. Long ridiculed by gun control advocates, they are the first words that come to mind for most Americans when the gun issue is discussed.
This is the first book both to acknowledge the profound and deadly impact of the gun lobbys bumper-sticker logic on the gun control debate and to systematically expose the misguided thinking at the core of the pro-gun slogans. Indeed, the author contends that the gun lobbys remarkable success in blocking passage of lifesaving gun laws is the result, in large part, of its relentless and effective use of these simple and resonant messages. Their persuasive power has been a largely ignored influence on the current politics of gun control, in which the gun lobby wields unprecedented power in the Republican Party, while many Democratic Party leaders see the policy benefits of stronger gun laws as not worth the political risk of standing up to the NRA. The book contends that the current political stalemate over guns will never be broken until the pro-gun slogans are exposed as the cleverly disguised fallacies that they are.
http://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Logic-Exploding-Paralyze-American/dp/B002YX0FCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324893259&sr=8-1
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Criticizing something that you can't even quote looks amazingly week as a debate tactic
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#26
If insisting that we consider the actual 2A when discussing the 2A qualifies as dogmatism
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#43
They are refuting your ignorant, arrogant claims that you have failed to support with evidence.
PavePusher
Dec 2011
#74
I agree. 4% who can't venture out of house without a gun or two will whine and argue irrationally.
Hoyt
Dec 2011
#31
Apparently not all of us live in a different world. We all live in a strange world.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#36
That statement might have some credibility if you had a legitimate source to back it up.
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#34
No, I'm telling you that even a single anecdote outweighs your unsupported claim...
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#75
You've referred twice to "primary sources" in this sub-thread but haven't named one yet
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#80
A nation in which a large portion of the population is banned from owning guns or anything else
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#83
According to your links, all gunners over 45 years of age need to turn in your guns.
Hoyt
Dec 2011
#62
You obviously didn't read your own link that said the "militia" includes people UNDER 45.
Hoyt
Dec 2011
#78
Nothing in the Constitution or the law makes militia membership a pre-requisite for owning a gun
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#81
So, Second Amendment mention nothing about "militia." So why did you post link in first place?
Hoyt
Dec 2011
#85
No, it says that the militia is important, and that an armed populace is a prerequisite...
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#86
i agree, there are far more powerful weapons today, should people have access to drones to defend a
JI7
Dec 2011
#40
Let me get this straight. An off duty police officer shot 9 people claiming he saw a gun? Yikes.
rhett o rick
Dec 2011
#32