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19. And, it's not as if one can forclose on a subprime loan on country.

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:27 AM

Feb 2015

The politics there are openly hostile to the American government, so it's not as if he could honestly expect a bailout from the US. He just sees the ship sinking and is sending out distress signals.

The people can't take much more of this, he's in a bad situation that isn't going to improve. Even after he's gone, the country is still going to be a mess for decades now.

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Venezuela seeks mediation with US [View all] Zorro Feb 2015 OP

I hate you, I hate you, save me, save me!!!!! MADem Feb 2015 #1

Things are getting: freshwest Feb 2015 #8

When even Chavez's economic guru calls him an idiot, he's on thin ice... MADem Feb 2015 #10

It's really sad. So many hopes dashed there. Now for a reality check and some relief - hopefully the freshwest Feb 2015 #15

'Krugman is dead to me'. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #18

Just came back from a thread where a poster claims there's no proof minorities like gays are freshwest Feb 2015 #25

Lots of newbies about, and coincidence or not, they seem to be Putin boosters. Rah! Rah! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #26

I loved that one. Of course when they get here, it's all "I'm an 'Murican! More 'Murican than you." freshwest Feb 2015 #29

"It's as if they're being watched, huh?" Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #59

There's one on Discussionist who posts NOTHING but pro-russia OPs EVERY day 7962 Feb 2015 #34

Discussionist? Is that how they're finding their way in here? And I'm not so sure it "wouldn't be Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #58

I can think of 3 people who constantly are pro Putin/Maduro/anything anti-Israel 7962 Feb 2015 #64

Makes you wonder if this TOS has any real meaning at this point? Are we all Discussionist now? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #66

They have a LAW for that? hughee99 Feb 2015 #43

It's a recent change to the law written by Chavez that enshrined the right to protest MADem Feb 2015 #47

The US funding for destabilizing socialism in Venezuela really works. fasttense Feb 2015 #51

Of course, it couldn't POSSIBLY christx30 Feb 2015 #52

Oh yeah, some capatilist not being able to sell or buy electronics will topple a government fasttense Feb 2015 #60

Electronics for one. christx30 Feb 2015 #61

you know what else topples a government? fasttense Feb 2015 #65

Poverty rates in Peru and Colombia are lower than in Venezuela which is at one-third and growing Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #67

So show us the evidence that this is what's happening. GGJohn Feb 2015 #69

No condoms either. n/t Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #68

Many South American countries are doing very well. MADem Feb 2015 #62

Yes, it's beyond the typical left-right, capitalism-socialism thing. Some refuse to believe that freshwest Feb 2015 #70

And yours is one of the best posts in this thread, because it has that thing I love--NUANCE! MADem Feb 2015 #71

There is good and bad in all of us. A great Russian author wrote: freshwest Feb 2015 #73

He's running scared. Perhaps he senses God-given COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #2

I'd like to see God-given hair given a chance. I love that nickname. Any pictures of said mane? freshwest Feb 2015 #9

It's actually not a nickname but rather is the COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #39

Oh, thanks, but I was hoping for something like this: freshwest Feb 2015 #40

The actual guy is a bit thin up top! MADem Feb 2015 #72

Oh, that takes away my pleasant illusion. freshwest Feb 2015 #74

Maduro's government is destabilizing itself through incompetence. It would be nice for the US Monk06 Feb 2015 #3

+1 Adrahil Feb 2015 #33

Maduro is a hoot. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #4

You say "loan", but the reality christx30 Feb 2015 #5

True. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #7

Hugo's economic advisor called him a laughingstock. I think Hugo didn't make that pick. MADem Feb 2015 #12

Did he trade the last of their oil futures to China for the most recent $20bn? herding cats Feb 2015 #11

I'm sure he wishes it was only 50%. christx30 Feb 2015 #13

I didn't realize it was that high. herding cats Feb 2015 #14

And people aren't willing to give them christx30 Feb 2015 #16

And, it's not as if one can forclose on a subprime loan on country. herding cats Feb 2015 #19

Agreed. christx30 Feb 2015 #21

The rhetoric toward America is just because it resonates in the region. herding cats Feb 2015 #30

The U.S. Delves its bad reputation in the region.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #35

"Oil price slump weakens Venezuela's economy and government" Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #22

96% of their revenue is based on oil! herding cats Feb 2015 #27

"Yet it's America's fault prices are down on the global market?" It's a real head scratcher, Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #28

It's foolish, but I've heard weirder claims. herding cats Feb 2015 #32

VZ was living large on oil revenues back when prices were $100+/bbl Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #75

+1. I can't believe a modern day petro economy hasn't diversified beyond 4%. I feel sorry for.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #76

Boy, you said it all!! "until they need something". 7962 Feb 2015 #36

That mediator has his work cut out for him. herding cats Feb 2015 #6

Why? Aren't we Satan's spawn? Filthy Imperialists? etc. etc. etc.? I guess it doesn't have the..... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #17

Is your photo authentic? It came from a survivalists' blog. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #20

Go to Google & take your pick. They all say the same thing. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #23

Bloomberg News: The $755 Condom Pack Is the Latest Indignity in Venezuela Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #24

Not very liberal, progressive or socialist, huh? freshwest Feb 2015 #31

"shopping" for chicken and flour Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #38

I saw this on the teevee at WalMart on Black Friday... Scary stuff! freshwest Feb 2015 #42

you did? Where was that WalMart? Did you see this one? Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #44

All crowds at shopping centers look like WalMart to me. Especially if they're running. Stampede! freshwest Feb 2015 #48

Sorry too, I didn't notice it was you until after I already responded and caught the sarcasm n/t Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #50

You only see that kind of behavior perhaps only once a year, during Black Friday Marksman_91 Feb 2015 #53

Looks like a 5K fun run to me... And some nice countryside there. freshwest Feb 2015 #41

Here are some more Hunger Games for ya Bacchus4.0 Feb 2015 #45

Not into Hunger Games. That doesn't look funny even with the narrator cheering... freshwest Feb 2015 #49

Yep, and if you finish at the top 20% of the pack snooper2 Feb 2015 #46

He's lost without Cuba. joshcryer Feb 2015 #37

Oh, such glee over Venezuela's misery. Like it's game. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #54

I don't have glee over what's going on down there. christx30 Feb 2015 #56

Their misery is all self-inflicted. COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #57

It's not glee... Adrahil Feb 2015 #63

Maduro seeks mediation with the voices in his head. nt hack89 Feb 2015 #55

If they are asking for mediation that must mean we are getting ready to invade and occupy them. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #77

Sure, why not Bradical79 Feb 2015 #78