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Voice for Peace

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14. thanks for sharing your perspectives here
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:29 AM
Apr 2012

A human life ultimately is defined by the thoughts we think
(my belief) even more than deeds, and the measure of conscience
and compassion we live by. Nobody ever knows what another
person's experience has been. To stay on the safe side, I assume
it has already been hard enough for them and I don't need to
make it any harder.

In war, or other severely intensive life-threatening situations,
the human organism shuts down something fundamental inside.
The feeling self, and conscience, in those moments, are suspended.
The immediate need is survival: sharp action & quick choices.

You don't have the luxury to consider the other people who are
trying to kill you, to wonder if they have children, or if they ever get
sad, or if they believe in the war, or even if YOU believe in the war.
You don't get to know or even consider those things, because the
urge to survive is so powerful.

But back on land, that connection must be restored. It is our built-in
best friend, inside of us. If the connection isn't restored, the
repressed stuff has great power. People tend to become very
unhappy and it can manifest in many ways. Total shutdown
leads people to suicide and murder, madness, illness, megalomania.

And I personally believe that whatever we have tried to shut
away, hide from ourselves, it must be looked at in the light,
and the associated emotions must be felt. If there is grief or
regret, or anger -- these feelings must be released, or we
will always be haunted by them. This is kindness; our own
conscience is a friend, and a tool of healing, even when it's painful.

Somehow in life we are continually asked to look at ourselves,
examine our own errors, correct our path. And keep on going.
When it's too painful, I've found, a torrent of tears has a
way of soothing. Another built-in friend.

War is brutalizing. HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #1
Oskar Schindler says something very similar about the Nazi officer Amon Goeth in Schindler's List. Towlie Apr 2012 #3
thank you for a very intelligent reply this topic. Very refreshing to not get demonized to push pasto76 Apr 2012 #7
hey! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #13
thanks for sharing your perspectives here Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #14
hell marshall gaines Apr 2012 #8
For many, probably -- not some. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #16
Yes, no doubt individual response varies HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #18
Winning hearts and minds. obxhead Apr 2012 #2
No! NO!!!! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #10
They started it. obxhead Apr 2012 #11
Our tax $$ @ work! lunasun Apr 2012 #4
stay classy fellas. n/t deacon_sephiroth Apr 2012 #5
Bounty of the warmonger. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #6
Afghanistan at war has long been noted for brutality and desecration. PassingFair Apr 2012 #9
wow Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #15
so it is OK to act barbaric then??? I see...makes sense then- not! lunasun Apr 2012 #19
And again, why are we there? n2doc Apr 2012 #12
My uncle sent photos back from the Korean War but nothing like this. Pics of their camps, pics of jwirr Apr 2012 #17
War is hell. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #20
Sadly, this behavior is a common part of war. Now the Facebook generation is once again Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #21
the 'stan is now the 'nam Tax Man Apr 2012 #22
I think this type of black humor occurs whenever hedgehog Apr 2012 #23
It's OK for soldiers to do these poses as long as they keep cameras away. alp227 Apr 2012 #24
"...no one would defend Afghan soldiers who killed American soldiers... KansDem Apr 2012 #25
And not forgetting ... Nihil Apr 2012 #26
That first pic is seriously photoshopped B2G Apr 2012 #27
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