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d_r

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37. Assuming that I can't prevent it before it got to that point
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:50 PM
Apr 2012

(and frankly I would have), then:

If she can't hurt herself, I walk out and shut the door, and come back in when she has cooled off.

I say that because going head to head with a young kid having a temper tantrum is only going to exacerbate it.

If I thought she was going to hurt herself then I couldn't do that, so I would:

Talk to her in a calm, soothing voice. "It is OK, you are OK." What I want here is for her to get control of her hands and body.

I am reflecting "you are so upset" and I am I-messaging "I am afraid you will get hurt" and I am redirecting "calm down, give yourself a hug like a turtle," "shhh, you're OK sweetie give yourself a big hug," "shhh, it's ok honey, you are ok." Voice tone, calm, even, neutral, matter of fact, reassuring normal volume.

I am not taking it personally and getting my feelings involved, I am remembering that she is a young child and I am the grown up there to help her learn. I am not out of control of the situation and yelling or demanding or threatening. I am in control and I am letting her know that and that she is going to be safe.

If that doesn't work I use a calm, reassuring hold until she is able to gain control.

I get another adult to witness with me.

I am not doing this to show that I have more power. I am being reassuring and calm. I am saying that "I am afraid you will hurt yourself. You can not control your hands, I am going to help you do that now."

With my right hand I hold on to her left, talking as I go, turn her body so that I am behind cross my left arm over her body and holding her arm to her body, wrap my left leg around her body and bring her slowly down on to my lap with my left leg crossing her legs. I am pinning her legs with my left leg wrapped around hers and her arm with my arms wrapped around her. "shhh, you are OK I am not going to let you hurt yourself or anyone else shhhhh" and then I ride it out until she exhausts.

And then I talk to her and praise her for getting under control and I figure out how I'm going to prevent that from ever happening again.

I was trained to safely physically restrain a child as I worked with children in a residential mental health center. That type of training should be part of a special education curriculum and there should be someone with expertise in that in the school. One of the worst things I had to do was take a kitchen knife away from an adolescent boy - I certainly didn't need to call the police to do that for me.

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Reminds me of another little girl from the South (minus the handcuffs) FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #1
typical... Sancho Apr 2012 #2
Wasn't there any pepper spray? JackintheGreen Apr 2012 #3
Pepper Spray is for peaceful protesters....tasers are for old people.... Evasporque Apr 2012 #30
I just restrained the arms of a man 2x my size having a seizure, the police couldn't restrain a 6yr? DRoseDARs Apr 2012 #4
Of course they could -- and they did. Massacure Apr 2012 #10
So a 6-yr-old is the same size and strength as a gym patron over 6ft 200lbs? nt DRoseDARs Apr 2012 #21
You would have sent her back to class to be around the other children? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #32
These GA cops seem to be suffering from Napoleon Complex. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #5
Unfortunately the authoritarians won the top-liked comments. alp227 Apr 2012 #6
Oh yes they can and do. Child should have been safely restrained, calmed down, call parents. MichiganVote Apr 2012 #7
Could have been a "stand your ground" law Iliyah Apr 2012 #8
I've seen a little boy about that age out of control. Archae Apr 2012 #9
Sorry but Taureanblack Apr 2012 #23
So you would have choked her out? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #33
What civilized country are you talking about, in severe cases all you can do is use restraints happyslug Apr 2012 #39
Parents are going to ask Al Sharpton to get involved, says the story. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #11
UGH, the parents are pulling the race card to deflect from their shitty parenting? Odin2005 Apr 2012 #13
No, the parents are going to ask if the criminal justice system discriminates against Black kids. McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #16
She was charged as a criminal? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #44
The child is very pretty and black. I do not know what the race of the police or principal are. MADem Apr 2012 #18
How is it that this child's picture and a video, no less, can be shown and publicized??? nanabugg Apr 2012 #49
The family contacted Al Sharpton to amplify their grievance riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #50
I think the mother might have given permisssion. I can't see any other way they would have gotten MADem Apr 2012 #53
Actually I think this was totally appropriate groundloop Apr 2012 #12
My son (age 5) is autistic and goes into christx30 Apr 2012 #25
This is what happens when teachers are not allowed to restrain misbehaving kids. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #14
You make a very good point Mz Pip Apr 2012 #27
This is what people quickly forget... Phentex Apr 2012 #36
I vote for not appropriate. She is six. Did she act violent towards the police officer? McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #15
I don't know about "trying" to hurt herself or others, but there was that danger groundloop Apr 2012 #17
I think she pulled a shelf down on top of a school employee. She is black. MADem Apr 2012 #19
Definitely! colorado_ufo Apr 2012 #20
What you are forgetting is Taureanblack Apr 2012 #24
I'm sure her mom will have her checked out. Seems on top of things. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #34
Ok exactly what is wrong here with this? cstanleytech Apr 2012 #22
what's wrong with this = to me d_r Apr 2012 #26
A voice of reason! Wind Dancer Apr 2012 #28
I don't know all the specifics here Mz Pip Apr 2012 #29
In Georgia you can paddle a kid d_r Apr 2012 #31
What would you have done? Be specific. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #35
Assuming that I can't prevent it before it got to that point d_r Apr 2012 #37
ROFL. Mark Wahlberg, is that you? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #38
I'm sorry but that is a little over reaching d_r Apr 2012 #41
Got it. "Not on my watch". Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #42
are you an attourny or are you an expert in education? d_r Apr 2012 #43
My wife is an expert on children and she knows the first rule is to not touch the kids. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #45
I don't think that is the first rule at all. d_r Apr 2012 #47
First rule of us not getting sued into bankruptcy and beyond. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #48
I'm using the legality of corporal punishment as an example d_r Apr 2012 #51
However were the handcuffs cstanleytech Apr 2012 #40
New Sesame Street skit: "Elmo does not consent to a search." KurtNYC Apr 2012 #46
The girl's tantrum went beyond normal acting up. Beacool Apr 2012 #52
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