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happyslug

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48. I drove Reo-Diamond M35s, the GMCs were either WWII Surplus or M135s.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:31 PM
Feb 2015

The WWII 2 1/2 ton truck was the most produced vehicle of WWII, out numbering even Jeep. It was a GMC medium duty truck with four wheel drive installed in the Factory. My unit used them to till the 1970s but they were long gone by the time I entered the National Guard in 1981.

Now, after WWII, the US Army had a plan. The Army was going to replace all of its GMC WWII 2 1/2 ton truck with an 2 1/2 ton GMC produced truck with an Automatic Transmission. This automatic transmission started out as the GM's infamous 2 speed automatic but the Army wanted it upgraded to a three speed. In the interim the Army decided to leave most of the WWII trucks in the Theatres they were in and replace them on an interim basis with Rio-Diamond 2 1/2 ton trucks till the GMC with an Automatic Transmission. The Post war Rio-Diamond were designated the M35, the GMC with Automatic Transmission the M135.

Development of the M135 took a while, but 1950 it was ready and since the Korean War was ongoing at that time period, they were shipped to replace the old WWII era GMC trucks and the M35s already sent to Korea.

In Korea the M135 was hated. The M135s could NOT keep up with the WWII GMC or the M35s, both of which had manual transmissions, thus had to be put in special convoys isolated from the older Trucks. Worse do to its slow speeds on hills the Troops kept rejecting them, demanding M35s or even worn out WWII era GM trucks. The M135s were withdrawn from the Regular forces and then given to various other countries and the US National Guard. The "Interim design" M35 stayed in production till the 1980s (While be converted from a Gasoline Engine Trucks to an Diesel with a Standard Transmission starting in the early 1960s, then in the 1990s into a Diesel with Automatic Transmissions, this time an US Army developed six speed Automatic Transmission).

In the 1980s I drove one of the last M35 with a Gasoline Engine. It had been built in 1947, according to the Data Plate on the Truck. It drove and felt like it was much lighter then the Diesel Versions (and it was lighter) and tended to have better traction in the mud but it needed constant care do to its age, but when it ran it ran well. I was out of the National Guard when the Regular Army started to upgrade the M35s to one with a six speed Automatic Transmissions so I never drove a M35 with an automatic transmission. All the Diesels, even the ones with manual transmissions, had to have larger and more powerful engines then the earlier gasoline job do to Diesel lower torque at low speed.

What Norway received or purchased is unknown to me. It is mountainous so I doubt it was the M135s. It may have been old WWII era 2 1/2 ton trucks (these were NEVER given a designation other then 2 1/2 truck) but I suspect M35s. Either Diesels or Gasoline converted to Diesel.

As to Europe going to Automatics, from what I have read it is to the newer "Automatic Manual Transmissions" not US type Automatics. "Automatic Manual Transmissions" use a computer to shift the gears instead of a person doing so, thus in theory as efficient as a manual transmission. I use the term "In theory" for such computers programs are based on certain assumptions that do not always apply to all locations. Thus they will go into to high a gear in mountainous terrain for the program is based on a more balance terrain then one finds in the Mountains or on the Plains. On the plains they may stay in to low a gear for to long a period.

In my Chevrolet Cruse Eco, I generally get 40 miles to the gallon EXCEPT if I have to go to my County Seat, which is on top of Allegheny Mountain. Now Allegheny Mountain is NOT that tall of a mountain, but I generally see my milage goes down below 40 mpg when I make trips up the mountain to my County Seat.

On the other hand, when I visited my Niece in Colorado last year, in one stretch of milage between the Appalachian mountains where I live and the Rocky mountain where she lives, I did better then 50 mpg for a 500 miles stretch of highway. It was Plaint, almost as flat as the ocean. I bring this up for this is the problem with the "Automatic Manual Transmissions", it is NOT geared for almost exclusive use in Mountains OR exclusive use on the Plains. As a driver with a manual you can adjust your driving to reflect the terrain, the computer MUST assume that the car is traveling in something not quite mountains but also not quite the plains. Some computers can adjust to reflect what it had to do in the past, but most can not and even if they can, it takes them a while to adjust from one set of "Normal" to another set of "Normal" Conditions. Thus I am staying with manual transmission, till I can not get one any more.

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Report Sees Weak Security in Cars’ Wireless Systems bananas Feb 2015 #1
Senator: Your futuristic car is putting your privacy and security at risk bananas Feb 2015 #2
why are brake systems, etc. connected to a network? Enrique Feb 2015 #3
Modern cars automatically brake when approaching a resting(?) obstacle at high speed. DetlefK Feb 2015 #7
Unfortunately you have to switch it on jakeXT Feb 2015 #9
your 3rd sentence is what I don't get Enrique Feb 2015 #32
It's connected indirectly. DetlefK Feb 2015 #35
And it can all be switched on remotely if turned off by the owner. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #37
Michael Hastings Murdered? billhicks76 Feb 2015 #10
My first thought as well... Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #14
Jeez, sure a lot of paranoids around. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #20
That's the thing about paranoia... Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #27
It's Usually Just An Analytical Mind billhicks76 Feb 2015 #40
Unlikely, but even if so, don't need a wireless connection. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #19
They're doing it with nuclear reactor control systems, too. bananas Feb 2015 #12
The ODN bus is used for everything now. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #18
thanks,but that seems all done local to the car Enrique Feb 2015 #33
Abuse of related wireless systems. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #38
I had to think about this a while too. Here's what I came up with: mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #31
"Override the brakes, Siri." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #54
Car hacked on 60 Minutes bananas Feb 2015 #4
Hope no one in government or with evil intent and political power or ambition is abusing this. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #24
Of course they are! They use Wi-Fi. Duh! Why does anyone need that in their car? Or TV? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #5
Because the security system is integrated to ODN and Telematics. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #21
True. And now they want to use wireless to unlock your castle's front door..how convenient is that? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #22
In this case, I think Aldous Huxley would be the clear winner. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #23
"Technology promised me a space station for Christmas and all I got was this lousy Face book." Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #26
Looks like my pre-computer car might have some re-sale value after all. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #25
But also standard with the standard WiFi is more standard collision air bags, so it evens up. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #28
This issue is why I'm trying to keep mine going too. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #45
Sounds like Richard Clark's statements on Hastings death jakeXT Feb 2015 #6
If covert intelligence agencies can find a new way to kill folks they will find and use that way. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #29
yikes! marym625 Feb 2015 #8
K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #11
This is why I won't have a car with WiFi in it. bemildred Feb 2015 #13
Solution? Maynar Feb 2015 #15
Just need a car with no WIFi. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #30
other nasty ramifications? Martak Sarno Feb 2015 #16
bananas Diclotican Feb 2015 #17
Watch yourself, 93.5% of Americans buy cars with Automatics transmissions.... happyslug Feb 2015 #41
happyslug Diclotican Feb 2015 #43
I have owned ONE automatic in my life happyslug Feb 2015 #46
happyslug Diclotican Feb 2015 #47
I drove Reo-Diamond M35s, the GMCs were either WWII Surplus or M135s. happyslug Feb 2015 #48
happyslug Diclotican Feb 2015 #49
My unit had "Multi-Fuel" M35s happyslug Feb 2015 #51
happyslug Diclotican Feb 2015 #52
This makes me appreciate my Oldsmobile a bit more. Throd Feb 2015 #34
First thought...What do you do for a living? I hack cars. Huh? libdem4life Feb 2015 #36
DOT has put these things all up and down every major roadway here in Dallas. What do they do??? blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #39
Toll Road RFID Tags mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #42
That is why I buy a car with a Manual Transmission happyslug Feb 2015 #44
Me: 20 year old truck, 25 year old TV, flip-phone IDemo Feb 2015 #50
i like more 'n more my dumb car, dumb phone, dumb tv... NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #53
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