Debbie Wasserman Schultz considering 2016 Senate bid

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66. No apology for your mistaken challenges yesterday? Trying instead to double down (comically)?

Classy.



Amazing. Yesterday, you didn't even know about New Democrats, now you are an expert. (Not.)

FYI, "New Democrat" is a political ideology, like neoliberal or liberal or conservative, not simply a group within Congress..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

Specifically, it is a DLC-type centrist ideology, as distinguished from the ideology that predominated within the Democratic Party between FDR and formation of the DLC in 1985.

After being elected the first time, Obama told members of the New Democrat coalition that he was a New Democrat.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19862.html


Amazingly not a single member of the New Democrat coalition said, "How can you be a New Democrat? You are not a member of this group." Do you think President Obama lied to the Congressional New Democrat Coalition about being a New Democrat himself, when he was not even in Congress, let alone a member of the group?

After being elected the first time, Obama told members of the New Democrat coalition that he was a New Democrat.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19862.html


Amazingly not a single member of the New Democrat Coalition said, "How can you be a New Democrat? You are not a member of Congress, let alone a member of the Congressional New Democrat coalition."

Do you think President Obama lied to the Congressional New Democrat Coalition about being a New Democrat himself? Yet, he was not a member of the Congressional New Democrat Coalition, even when he was in the Senate.

Centrism is either your political ideology or it is not. Not being an official member of some group that has New Democrat in its title does not mean you are not a New Democrat. For example the Senate has no Progressive Caucus and no Liberal Caucus. Does that mean that no Senator is progressive or liberal?

Not everyone in Congress wants to associate with an ideological group. There are good reasons for doing so; there are also good reasons for not doing so. It's a personal/political choice for each member of Congress.

If you want to argue that Kaine's politics are not New Democrat, fine. You'll have a hard time convincing anyone he is not a centrist. However, at least you will be in the correct ballpark. On the other hand, your comment that he can't be a New Democrat because he didn't sign up for a group with New Democrat in the title shows (for the second time during this one exchange) that you will challenge me, even mock me, repeatedly about a two line post, although you yourself are woefully uninformed about everything I said in that two line post.


Next time, please educate yourself first. Also, you might consider admitting a mistake after you've been corrected, instead of simply moving from one incorrect challenge to the next.