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18. Why are you a MIC apologist? Why not question the propaganda? On Russia and Putin only, the media

Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:27 AM

Feb 2015

is telling the gospel truth? Everything else they lie about?

"The scary Russians, the scary ISIS, the scary Iran...etc. etc." Same con game, same exploitation of the reptilian brain.

That is called "tunnel vision".

I am consistent in questioning the media information, across the board, across all the issues, some are not.

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RAF jets intercept Russian bomber aircraft off Cornwall (UK) [View all] Turborama Feb 2015 OP

Turnabout is fair play Demeter Feb 2015 #1

It is the media forwarding government war talk and creating tension..it is what they do to control thought. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #3

What makes you Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #35

"Ukraine conflict: UK joins Nato exercise in Poland"--BBC KoKo Feb 2015 #48

I'm curious Fred.... do you have any criticism for the Russians.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #70

Cameron "and his minions" in Europe want to stir up fear for political gain, so does Putin. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #71

Thanks for the reply. n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #76

when have we done that lately Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #15

we do that every day, and have since the 50s. olddad56 Feb 2015 #50

Proof, no we do not Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #56

The Navy still flies these missions, I would have to believe that the AF does also. olddad56 Feb 2015 #78

I guess Russia is just very quiet about this Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #79

The Navy doesn't fly nuclear capable bombers along Russia's coastline, GGJohn Feb 2015 #83

The US Navy turns off their transponders and interferes with Russian aviation right on their border? EX500rider Feb 2015 #94

Ummm, no we don't. GGJohn Feb 2015 #74

Yes, they are breaking rules... Number9Dream Feb 2015 #42

Well, it is the latest in an ongoing string of incidents Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #72

The interception of the Bears comes a fortnight after similar aircraft flew into the English Channel Cha Feb 2015 #2

I have to say I am surprised by your opinions regarding Russia. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #5

Backatcha Fred. Cha Feb 2015 #8

When exactly did Russia become a mortal enemy again and the Cold War start anew? Sabre rattling Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #11

We differ.. you're not going to change how I feel about Putin and I'm not interested in changing Cha Feb 2015 #13

I am not going to attempt to change it then, but can it be explained? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #14

Because Russia ignored their Ukrainian agreement and invaded anyway 7962 Feb 2015 #16

Senator Inhofe has some allies I see. Anything to start a war....interesting. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #19

well if Russia had not invaded Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #27

Fred is uninterested in actual dialogue Android3.14 Feb 2015 #47

Did you like the 'evidence' of Senator Inhofe? That does not bother you? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #49

Wow, those pretty pictures add SO MUCH to your argument. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #73

clearly, you have no clue what you are talking about ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #89

And then Fred posts unrelated material Android3.14 Feb 2015 #63

The Obama admin and UN reports confirm that Russia has sent tanks, and has shelled Ukr. positions NickB79 Feb 2015 #90

When exactly did mole hills become mountains? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #91

The unprovoked invasion of a foreign nation and thousands dead is a mole hill to you? NickB79 Feb 2015 #92

All strawmen are interesting and easily knocked down. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #93

For me, it began when Russia violated the Budapest Memorandum of 1994. ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #39

That Agreement only addresses the use of weapons AGAINST the Ukraine happyslug Feb 2015 #57

It also assures territorial integrity. ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #64

OK, here's a LOT of proof for you. How can you say Russia isnt using weapons against Ukraine?? 7962 Feb 2015 #80

Was it when they attacked Georgia in 2008? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #43

Didn't Georgia attack first? happyslug Feb 2015 #53

The problem was South Ossetia is part of Georgia, not Russia (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #54

The people of South Osseia think otherwise and have been de facto independent since 1992. happyslug Feb 2015 #59

No, nothing like Vancouver Island; the internationally recognised border muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #61

A lot of people are channelling a well known Republican... MattSh Feb 2015 #26

They should just completely ignore them n2doc Feb 2015 #4

What? Why would Russia do that? Really? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #7

I'm not saying that they would n2doc Feb 2015 #10

It has been going on for 50 years like this..it is what huge bored militaries do. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #12

Exactly, much ado about nothing. NATO probably does it at a 10 to 1 ratio. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #40

Which is no doubt duly reported as a great fright in those countries as well. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #41

Oh, no doubt. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2015 #58

We scramble fighters to escort because the bombers have their transponders off. jeff47 Feb 2015 #66

So would the USA.... MattSh Feb 2015 #28

Matsh please cite your source I am not aware of such irisblue Feb 2015 #33

For the millionth time: Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #38

The best I can do... MattSh Feb 2015 #69

So you dont believe Russian troops are fighting & dying in Ukraine? 7962 Feb 2015 #81

America has a military presence or actual bases in 133 countries and spies on them all. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #36

Marine Le Pen tends to echo your positions.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #37

Better yet: issue statement saying that the pilots' requests for asylum were denied. Orsino Feb 2015 #62

Oh, THAT would be a good one. 7962 Feb 2015 #82

This is a return to "Cold War" tactics TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #6

You are playing into the media fear factory...do you not remember 2003 at all? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #9

Fred, Cha is correct. Nitram Feb 2015 #17

Why are you a MIC apologist? Why not question the propaganda? On Russia and Putin only, the media Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #18

Is it propaganda that Russia has sent bombers on a path towards the UK? Nitram Feb 2015 #20

Check your history on how often such stuff happens. Or not, and stick with your error. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #22

Exactly, you have to fall back on "history" to find an example. Nitram Feb 2015 #31

Good grief.....you do know which party is not a fan of history? Again, that would explain the fright. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #32

Fred fools fewer and fewer on DU with every passing day. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #34

Actually, it's really not about sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #87

Bottom line, Russia is playing a very dangerous game. CanonRay Feb 2015 #21

Are you scared? Then mission accomplished for the UK con government. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #23

Did I say I was scared? CanonRay Feb 2015 #24

Ditto. Very scary "bad ending", no? Terrifying! Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #25

Now I understand why we have an Ignore List. Dasvidaniya! CanonRay Feb 2015 #29

I am honored. I have honored 17 on my list. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #30

I imagine many people, lacking a substantive and objective premise... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #44

Agreed. Some half-wits will never get informed enough to form a rational position. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #46

What's that passing over your head? (nt) jeff47 Feb 2015 #68

Would it be this? GGJohn Feb 2015 #84

russia has had enough 'practice' with all their new military gear in Ukraine. Sunlei Feb 2015 #45

"Poland Asks Nato to Station 10,000 Troops On its Territory for Permanent Deployment" KoKo Feb 2015 #55

The Brits should have sent up Sophwith Camels to deal with prop bombers JPZenger Feb 2015 #60

Those contra-rotating propellers are wicked cool and just the ticket for long range flights Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #65

The props are for range. jeff47 Feb 2015 #67

Russian bomber flew inland over Cornwall, witness claims Bosonic Feb 2015 #75

Hmmm, that puts a new light on it. Turborama Feb 2015 #85

Worn out cold war crap. nt ladjf Feb 2015 #77

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planesandstuff: Bear Hunting mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #88