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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
45. Copacetic.
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 03:27 PM
Dec 2011

You are quite right that people clump things that do not go together inappropriately, and certainly conflating anarchists with commies falls in that category; and that ties into the whole infantile, cliche "left-right" dichotomy which is endlessly shoved down our throats ike it was something real.

The commies in the Spanish Civil War were Soviet tools, as was the style back them in Commie politics, and they treated putting the Anarchists down way ahead of winning the war, that's quite clear, they were actively killing anarchists behind the lines. Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" is good on that subject.

One must consider the Hitler-Stalin pact too, as evidence that the Soviets - and Stalin in particular - were willing to make common cause with anyone at all for expediency's sake.

So I have to disagree that they were not actively aiding Franco, not because the favored his politics, but because they preferred losing to Franco to winning with the Anarchists in power.

To be fair, there were a lot of other factors in how that war came out. One regrets that the liberal democracies did not intervene more enthusiastically, we might have been able to skip WWII.

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One ought not confuse anarchists with commies either. bemildred Dec 2011 #12
I don't think you meant to say what your post seems to say starroute Dec 2011 #20
I don't think we disagree at all. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #27
No we don't -- I just wanted to clarify starroute Dec 2011 #41
Copacetic. bemildred Dec 2011 #45
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