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uhnope

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3. To so easily compare Occupy, Arab Spring, Latin american leftists & the Russian anti-Putin forces
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:07 PM
Feb 2015

is mind-bogglingly awkward. A book-length essay could maybe do so, in some ways. But come on. Different goals, different people, different tactics, different cultures...different ideologies and therefore what does "left" even mean? Are you calling the current Egyptian gov't "left" because it came about as the result of the Arab Spring?

I'm starting to think there never has been a "left" movement that in any way overlapped with concerns for justice, human rights and progressive values. Look at the "left" of the 20th century--it became synonymous with Soviet totalitarianism, the opposite of progressive values, and look at "leftist" terrorists like Carlos and Badder Meinhof who worked with the Soviets, Hezbollah, Saddam, Gaddafi and other despots/extremists that were also the opposite of progressive values. This so-called "left" was synonymous with money-making psychos. The fact that Soviet Russia was just a scam is proven by the fact that Putin has continued the exact same game as the Communist, but with all the ideology removed. Before the totalitarianism, propaganda, invasions and stealing the country blind for the enrichment of a limited few was in the name of Communism--now the same thing is going on with no real ideology.

I don't think the anti-Putin and anti-war forces in Russia are necessarily "left." They might just be for democracy and freedom. That makes them pretty radical inside Russia but in terms of ideology, probably just regular centrist folks.

What is "the left"? I think you are just referring to "opposition."

Oh shite! Cha Feb 2015 #1
So, question. Scootaloo Feb 2015 #2
To so easily compare Occupy, Arab Spring, Latin american leftists & the Russian anti-Putin forces uhnope Feb 2015 #3
Of course there's a variety on the left. It's made of people, not corporations my friend Scootaloo Feb 2015 #5
um, if you're trying to say Soviet Communism was not connected to the "left" uhnope Feb 2015 #12
I'm not condemning him, far from it. Scootaloo Feb 2015 #13
quote marks are to be used for quoting, sir, not for putting words in someone's mouth uhnope Feb 2015 #14
I asked whether DU would support the russian left if they stood up Scootaloo Feb 2015 #15
you might be confusing terms. and you should go back and reread what I said uhnope Mar 2015 #16
You wanted quotes? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #17
Either you're reading what you want into my words, or you just want to personally insult uhnope Mar 2015 #18
And before the Communists, the aristocracy led by the Tsar and Tsarina did it. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #6
thank you! Yes. Tsars too. The memo you mention is to be found in a couple threads on DU uhnope Mar 2015 #19
But George W. Bush Told Us He was a Good Man? Chasstev365 Feb 2015 #4
Murdering people to further one's goals. Training to be an American CEO? n/t jtuck004 Feb 2015 #7
Don Corleone would be proud FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #8
I'm sure all this speculaton will be laid to rest once the "Putin Commission" dflprincess Feb 2015 #9
We Have a Winner! Nicely done! Chasstev365 Feb 2015 #11
SOO, broke back puttie, penndragon69 Feb 2015 #10
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