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69. Oh I agree that options using military force are pretty nil but

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:04 PM

Mar 2015

there are other ways such as economic pressure can be used if the countries of the world support it which means the US would have to find some way to persuade China to stop enabling Russia because thats weakening the pressure the world can apply to Russia for its actions.

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Russia Denounces Arrival Of U.S. Military Trainers In Ukraine [View all] Purveyor Mar 2015 OP

As we would denounce Russia... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #1

Or how we would denounce Russia for invading and annexing part of Ukraine cstanleytech Mar 2015 #2

I agree... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #3

But was it part of the Ukraine? Xolodno Mar 2015 #25

Considering most of the world recognized the borders as drawn then the yes the Crimean Peninsula is cstanleytech Mar 2015 #38

So its world recognition that defines borders? Xolodno Mar 2015 #44

Nice try but the problem is the Kharkiv Pact. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #46

Wasn't a try... Xolodno Mar 2015 #47

But see this isnt the "What if?"� game though. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #50

Well...if were going to talk reality... Xolodno Mar 2015 #54

Actually I wont disagree but it does cross into the tin foil hat area atleast according to the cstanleytech Mar 2015 #55

I'm inclined to believe... Xolodno Mar 2015 #62

"(something us here in the US fail to grasp)" Oh I think alot of us grasp it, after all cstanleytech Mar 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Mar 2015 #56

Sort of, yes Scootaloo Mar 2015 #63

Risking nuclear war for the sake of Nazis--the new American Way Demeter Mar 2015 #4

Thanks for posting this. It deserves a OP on its own so I took the liberties Purveyor Mar 2015 #9

Thank you! Demeter Mar 2015 #10

You should probably think about what you just wrote.. snooper2 Mar 2015 #34

Think about it how? Demeter Mar 2015 #35

I don't post much... Xolodno Mar 2015 #48

Putinista backslapping. Such a lovely picture. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #53

Milne's a full of shit propagandist Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #41

Or perhaps Cuba. Igel Mar 2015 #5

I'll bet you a nickel Demeter Mar 2015 #11

We pay rent on Gitmo Telcontar Mar 2015 #13

Meaning the US is squatting--against the landlord's will Demeter Mar 2015 #14

Umm no. Legally negotiated treaty Telcontar Mar 2015 #16

Heh..it may be legally negotiated.... Xolodno Mar 2015 #20

Youre right, ultimately the law is a codified form of do what I say or I will hurt you Telcontar Mar 2015 #31

True. Xolodno Mar 2015 #45

Legally negotiated, under the threat of... MattSh Mar 2015 #26

Umm no, to qualify as squatting the landlord has to have "not" been cstanleytech Mar 2015 #39

They have contacts with Cuba and Nicaragua nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #7

This is a direct violation of the Minsk accords newthinking Mar 2015 #8

I just looked over the accords.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #15

That certainly was not the intention. So then *both* sides can have that kind of assistance? newthinking Mar 2015 #18

Well, the Russians would be entering sovereign territory.. Adrahil Mar 2015 #19

It's a civil war, and the eastern part of the nation has repudiated the west. Demeter Mar 2015 #29

So, if Russia were to send weapons in secret say to oregon to help cstanleytech Mar 2015 #40

Obama has to deal with the thug Putin and the thugs GOP at home, no matter what he does NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #51

If Obama said he like puppies... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #58

His wife recommended water as healthy and they went apeshit NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #59

I would call them asshats... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #60

Dingleberries shame on me, i love dingleberries NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #61

To the rescue team: Godspeed. To Russia: STFU uhnope Mar 2015 #6

Someone's trying to shut you down. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #22

Funny how that works, isn't it. uhnope Mar 2015 #23

Please don't ever be silent in the face of such blatant propagandizing. And good riddance to GW. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #27

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #32

I dont know who is trying to shut up who, but Putin is loved by GOP NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #52

Let me ask you a couple of direct questions. Xolodno Mar 2015 #28

thank you for your polite inquiry uhnope Mar 2015 #67

Cue the fake propaganda map with all the "NATO bases" davidpdx Mar 2015 #12

DUzy!!! nt uhnope Mar 2015 #24

Ukraine is a sovereign nation treestar Mar 2015 #17

Where do they figure? Xolodno Mar 2015 #21

They seem to be warning Ukraine not to have US advisors treestar Mar 2015 #33

Seem to be? Xolodno Mar 2015 #37

Hey, it worked in Vietnam, right? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #30

Or worse yet, mercenaries Demeter Mar 2015 #36

Simple...So we make a deal with Russia, then: Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #42

Wasn't Crimea taken back by force last year? sakabatou Mar 2015 #43

No, the Ukrainian government has not been able to expel the invading Russian forces. nt cstanleytech Mar 2015 #65

I meant the Russian forces taking it back, not the Ukranians sakabatou Mar 2015 #66

How can Russia take back what wasnt theirs? cstanleytech Mar 2015 #68

You know what, I'm just going to lay down sakabatou Mar 2015 #70

Thus is a terrible idea. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #49

Oh I agree that options using military force are pretty nil but cstanleytech Mar 2015 #69

Well let's hope Turbineguy Mar 2015 #57