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brooklynite

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11. Someone facing chemo is, by definition, not healthy...

Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:57 PM

Mar 2015

...and how I would react to a daughter is something I can't answer, because I've decided not to have children. Setting emotions aside, I believe people should be able to decide these things for themselves.

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Cancer in remission for teen forced to undergo chemo [View all] Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP

That poor girl, forced to live cancer-free. Orrex Mar 2015 #1

Am I to understand you believe a patient shouldn't decide for themselves? brooklynite Mar 2015 #2

Am I to understand that her cancer was terminal with no hope of survival? Orrex Mar 2015 #3

I support the right of people to decide their own medical treatment... brooklynite Mar 2015 #5

Where do you draw the line? Orrex Mar 2015 #12

It's precisely BECAUSE I don't think it's simple... brooklynite Mar 2015 #14

Well, that's kind of the point Orrex Mar 2015 #16

Her body, her right to choose PumpkinAle Mar 2015 #6

If your healthy 17-year-old daughter told you she was going to kill herself Orrex Mar 2015 #9

Someone facing chemo is, by definition, not healthy... brooklynite Mar 2015 #11

Well, now you're adding a stipulation Orrex Mar 2015 #15

Someone with tonsilitis YarnAddict Mar 2015 #37

She's 17, and her odds of survival are 80-85% with treatment and 0 without. deurbano Mar 2015 #8

^^That Orrex Mar 2015 #10

If I recall correctly a judge found she wasn't informed and rational enough to make the decision LeftyMom Mar 2015 #13

0? How may times have doctors been wrong? dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #20

Wow, such bullshit. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #26

WHO says she can't have children biologically??????????? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #29

Dead people can't have biological children either. deurbano Mar 2015 #60

So she can adopt, or her and her partner can use a surrogate in the future NickB79 Mar 2015 #62

my point being dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #69

I Agree That At The Age Of 18 It Should Be Her Decision... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #54

The right to choose was the issue at the center of this case. ManiacJoe Mar 2015 #17

I support brooklynite on this issue Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #21

The difference is YarnAddict Mar 2015 #30

VICE had some very recent reporting regarding recent breakthroughs in Cancer research JonLP24 Mar 2015 #4

As someone with leukemia, mimi85 Mar 2015 #18

Gee, this is a hard one. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #7

Not at all a hard decision, IMO YarnAddict Mar 2015 #31

I sure hope I didn't sound like I was dissing anyone else's experience. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #57

Oh, no! I didn't get that impression at all!!! YarnAddict Mar 2015 #58

I know. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #65

no doubt sterile now, and who knows if she would have lived or died dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #19

Again bullshit. The anti-science is palpable. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #27

Bullshit. YarnAddict Mar 2015 #32

my "facts" come from the anti-scientists at the American Cancer Society dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #68

And I have personally known people YarnAddict Mar 2015 #70

BTW, I read the article you linked YarnAddict Mar 2015 #71

this is not a simple situation, and I'm glad she'll be 18 soon magical thyme Mar 2015 #22

I'm with you magical!!!!! onecent Mar 2015 #23

Well said. n/t CanSocDem Mar 2015 #24

Don't think it cannot happen to an adult? HockeyMom Mar 2015 #25

horrifying. thank goodness he's finally been set free. magical thyme Mar 2015 #43

As opposed to a 99.999999999% chance she would be dead. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #28

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #33

Laetrile, maybe?? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #35

Quite possibly, I'd blocked that particular nastiness from memory. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #36

I can understand it YarnAddict Mar 2015 #38

Maybe that was her preference. I'm sure they gave her the actual odds magical thyme Mar 2015 #40

Clearly brainwashed by dumb-ass parents. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #59

The average person's chance of dying YarnAddict Mar 2015 #34

and it was YOUR CHOICE to go through treatment magical thyme Mar 2015 #41

I was old enough, YarnAddict Mar 2015 #42

and tell these people how "lucky" they are that their 26 year old son was forced to go through magical thyme Mar 2015 #44

Suffering?? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #45

wow. so your chemo wasn't all that bad, therefore everybody's experience is the same? magical thyme Mar 2015 #46

Wow, indeed YarnAddict Mar 2015 #47

I didn't say some should or shouldn't be mandatory. I did note that those magical thyme Mar 2015 #50

the parents of this girl are lucky they are not in jail where they belong geek tragedy Mar 2015 #49

No, it is very simple. She ought to be grateful for the people who saved her from her gross geek tragedy Mar 2015 #39

+1,000!! n/t YarnAddict Mar 2015 #48

She doesn't sound like she is kissing the ground those doctors walk on HockeyMom Mar 2015 #52

she was not legally competent to make that determination, and geek tragedy Mar 2015 #53

This! smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #67

What kind of risks do corpses run for secondary cancers and fertility issues? NickB79 Mar 2015 #63

and you and others are writing as though the state forcibly medicating somebody against their will magical thyme Mar 2015 #66

These can be tough issues. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #51

I struggled w/acceptance of recommended chemo, and did a LOT of research wordpix Mar 2015 #55

The other problem is that if you allow a 17 year old to take medical control, when is the cut off? F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #56

Congrats! Best wishes for continued health... and a great life! deurbano Mar 2015 #61

yipes. The state compelling someone to take medicine. This is not a good thing. Doctor_J Mar 2015 #64

Niiiiiiice . . . YarnAddict Mar 2015 #73

teens are impulsive people. I'm happy she survived & hope Jackie is happier today too. Sunlei Mar 2015 #72