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In reply to the discussion: Autism 'caused by genetics', study suggests [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)82. More.
http://www.marthaherbert.org/library/Herbert-Sage-2013-Autism-EMF-PlausibilityPathophysiologicalLink-Part11.pdf
3.1.4. Genetic alterations and reproductive impacts
The overwhelming emphasis in recent decades in autism research has been on genetics, and on finding linkages between genes, brain and behavior, in part because of the high heritability of autism that was calculated from the concordance rates of monozygotic (identical) vs. dizygotic (fraternal)twins found in by a series of small twin studies performed some decades ago. In recent years the genetic premises of this seemingly obvious framing of autism as overwhelmingly genetic have been undermined at several levels (253). First, the number of reported cases is increasing, making it more difficult to maintain that ASCs are purely genetic because these increases can only be partly explained away by greater awareness or other data artifacts (254,255). Second, the complexity of the ways we understand how genes might relate to autism has grown, from an expectation a decade ago that a small number of genes (even less than a dozen) would explain everything to an identification of close to a thousand genes associated with autism with common threads linking only a small subset (256,257), as well as de novo mutations present in ASC children but not their parents and even boutique mutations not shared beyond an individual family. Moreover, a recent twin study that was much larger than any of the prior such studies identified a modest genetic role but a substantial environmental role (258). Indeed even concordance between identical twins appears to be influenced by whether the twins shared a placenta (259). All of this calls into question the idea that genetics can be presumed to be the cause of autism simply based upon heritability calculations, and upgrades the importance of looking not only at the environment and environmentally vulnerable physiology, but also at acquired mutations.
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3.1.4. Genetic alterations and reproductive impacts
The overwhelming emphasis in recent decades in autism research has been on genetics, and on finding linkages between genes, brain and behavior, in part because of the high heritability of autism that was calculated from the concordance rates of monozygotic (identical) vs. dizygotic (fraternal)twins found in by a series of small twin studies performed some decades ago. In recent years the genetic premises of this seemingly obvious framing of autism as overwhelmingly genetic have been undermined at several levels (253). First, the number of reported cases is increasing, making it more difficult to maintain that ASCs are purely genetic because these increases can only be partly explained away by greater awareness or other data artifacts (254,255). Second, the complexity of the ways we understand how genes might relate to autism has grown, from an expectation a decade ago that a small number of genes (even less than a dozen) would explain everything to an identification of close to a thousand genes associated with autism with common threads linking only a small subset (256,257), as well as de novo mutations present in ASC children but not their parents and even boutique mutations not shared beyond an individual family. Moreover, a recent twin study that was much larger than any of the prior such studies identified a modest genetic role but a substantial environmental role (258). Indeed even concordance between identical twins appears to be influenced by whether the twins shared a placenta (259). All of this calls into question the idea that genetics can be presumed to be the cause of autism simply based upon heritability calculations, and upgrades the importance of looking not only at the environment and environmentally vulnerable physiology, but also at acquired mutations.
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READ: 5/2014 JAMA study of 2 million people in Sweden from '82-'06, "The Familial Risk of Autism."
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#59
Sideshow? You mean like the stupid-shitbaggery vaccines-cause-autism sideshow?
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#62
Sweet Jebus, you think every single reply is an excuse for you to post anti-vax shitbattery
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#64
Those are John Stone's words and he's readily accessible. I recommend reading his full comment...
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#117
THIS is funny!!! I guess way back when if you didn't have the sense to run from a saber-toothed tig
adigal
Mar 2015
#118
During the Dark Ages and prior, autism probably got you killed so you couldn't breed.
Trillo
Mar 2015
#17
I think you're absolutely right on that, Skittles. My brother, now 66, is very much ADHD...
Hekate
Mar 2015
#23
Indeed, Warpy... so I was looking for recent Menendez/autism news on Google and this popped up.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#66
No, I want transparency. You want to shut it all down and pretend everything's fine. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#94
#2 Correction: Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, UK lack universal Hep B vaccination policy
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#120
When it's good information, crowdsourcing ROCKS! Additional fine-tuning here.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#123
my best friend has a semi autistic adult daughter who blames her mother for everything
dembotoz
Mar 2015
#6
I think a lot of kids are "autistic" because they are not the perfect child of "perfect" parents.
LiberalArkie
Mar 2015
#20
But over 80% of US children involved in a multi-vehicle accident have received the TDAP vaccine!
struggle4progress
Mar 2015
#11
Well, this study is only confirming even more what other studies have shown over time.
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#16
I think certain conditions have been diagnosed much more often since healthcare became for-profit. n
valerief
Mar 2015
#25
Maybe now that they're no longer having to waste money refuting Wakefield's bull shit
Warpy
Mar 2015
#28
I've been thinking along those lines as well, especially after reading how many industrial chemicals
Hekate
Mar 2015
#35
Looking back, I can ID quite a few people I've known who were high functioning ASD people
Warpy
Mar 2015
#37
Same here. My whole family was "different," each in our own way. We just see the world ...
Hekate
Mar 2015
#41
I am not sure you want to condemn everyone when money is involved- Dr Gerberding
KellyW
Mar 2015
#112
What does that have to do with Wakefield cherry-picking (and even falsifying) his research?
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#113
I am just saying that the 4 words "There was money involved." is not all you need to know
KellyW
Mar 2015
#114
That is the current official story, isn't it, but will it be the historical one? (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#119
you get sarcasm when you respond to a peer reviewed study with basically, "nah, meh"
CreekDog
Mar 2015
#55
The headline "Autism 'caused by genetics', study suggests" is not true as stated
Bearware
Mar 2015
#31
Sometimes a quick glance is not enough and you throw the baby out with the bathwater
Bearware
Mar 2015
#52
I am pushing for science - when your consensus doesn't explain reality well it needs to change
Bearware
Mar 2015
#56
I did not revise the links I deleted them because the posts can stand without them
Bearware
Mar 2015
#58
Your relative's ataxia may have been influenced by an autoimmune disease, but that doesn't make it
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#104
Most neurological diseases can have more than one contributory cause including my relative's Ataxia
Bearware
Mar 2015
#109
Again, I think it's very possible, even likely, that there are environmental components to autism.
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#110
Both positive and negative, yes. That's probably the best way to look at it.
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#105
Look at the results that come up from a search on Google: C4B gene CD46.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#85
The "condemnation" is because there's no solid proof that vaccines have anything to do with autism.
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#106
maybe if get full-blown genetic studies we can start proving that autism is actually a whole host
JCMach1
Mar 2015
#92
The extreme variation within the "spectrum" does strongly suggest that there are multiple disorders
nomorenomore08
Mar 2015
#107