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HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
52. She doesn't sound like she is kissing the ground those doctors walk on
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:40 PM
Mar 2015

Think in September when she finally becomes an adult her entire attitude is going to change? At the very least she is going to have MENTAL SCARS from this experience.

So you agree that even with adults forced medical care by the government should be the norm? We may be forced today by the ACA to have health insurance (tax as the SC wisely worded it), but there is nothing in that law which says we must USE medical care.

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That poor girl, forced to live cancer-free. Orrex Mar 2015 #1
Am I to understand you believe a patient shouldn't decide for themselves? brooklynite Mar 2015 #2
Am I to understand that her cancer was terminal with no hope of survival? Orrex Mar 2015 #3
I support the right of people to decide their own medical treatment... brooklynite Mar 2015 #5
Where do you draw the line? Orrex Mar 2015 #12
It's precisely BECAUSE I don't think it's simple... brooklynite Mar 2015 #14
Well, that's kind of the point Orrex Mar 2015 #16
Her body, her right to choose PumpkinAle Mar 2015 #6
If your healthy 17-year-old daughter told you she was going to kill herself Orrex Mar 2015 #9
Someone facing chemo is, by definition, not healthy... brooklynite Mar 2015 #11
Well, now you're adding a stipulation Orrex Mar 2015 #15
Someone with tonsilitis YarnAddict Mar 2015 #37
She's 17, and her odds of survival are 80-85% with treatment and 0 without. deurbano Mar 2015 #8
^^That Orrex Mar 2015 #10
If I recall correctly a judge found she wasn't informed and rational enough to make the decision LeftyMom Mar 2015 #13
0? How may times have doctors been wrong? dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #20
Wow, such bullshit. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #26
WHO says she can't have children biologically??????????? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #29
Dead people can't have biological children either. deurbano Mar 2015 #60
So she can adopt, or her and her partner can use a surrogate in the future NickB79 Mar 2015 #62
my point being dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #69
I Agree That At The Age Of 18 It Should Be Her Decision... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #54
The right to choose was the issue at the center of this case. ManiacJoe Mar 2015 #17
I support brooklynite on this issue Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #21
The difference is YarnAddict Mar 2015 #30
VICE had some very recent reporting regarding recent breakthroughs in Cancer research JonLP24 Mar 2015 #4
As someone with leukemia, mimi85 Mar 2015 #18
Gee, this is a hard one. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #7
Not at all a hard decision, IMO YarnAddict Mar 2015 #31
I sure hope I didn't sound like I was dissing anyone else's experience. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #57
Oh, no! I didn't get that impression at all!!! YarnAddict Mar 2015 #58
I know. Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #65
no doubt sterile now, and who knows if she would have lived or died dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #19
Again bullshit. The anti-science is palpable. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #27
Bullshit. YarnAddict Mar 2015 #32
my "facts" come from the anti-scientists at the American Cancer Society dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #68
And I have personally known people YarnAddict Mar 2015 #70
BTW, I read the article you linked YarnAddict Mar 2015 #71
this is not a simple situation, and I'm glad she'll be 18 soon magical thyme Mar 2015 #22
I'm with you magical!!!!! onecent Mar 2015 #23
Well said. n/t CanSocDem Mar 2015 #24
Don't think it cannot happen to an adult? HockeyMom Mar 2015 #25
horrifying. thank goodness he's finally been set free. magical thyme Mar 2015 #43
As opposed to a 99.999999999% chance she would be dead. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #28
Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #33
Laetrile, maybe?? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #35
Quite possibly, I'd blocked that particular nastiness from memory. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #36
I can understand it YarnAddict Mar 2015 #38
Maybe that was her preference. I'm sure they gave her the actual odds magical thyme Mar 2015 #40
Clearly brainwashed by dumb-ass parents. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #59
The average person's chance of dying YarnAddict Mar 2015 #34
and it was YOUR CHOICE to go through treatment magical thyme Mar 2015 #41
I was old enough, YarnAddict Mar 2015 #42
and tell these people how "lucky" they are that their 26 year old son was forced to go through magical thyme Mar 2015 #44
Suffering?? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #45
wow. so your chemo wasn't all that bad, therefore everybody's experience is the same? magical thyme Mar 2015 #46
Wow, indeed YarnAddict Mar 2015 #47
I didn't say some should or shouldn't be mandatory. I did note that those magical thyme Mar 2015 #50
the parents of this girl are lucky they are not in jail where they belong geek tragedy Mar 2015 #49
No, it is very simple. She ought to be grateful for the people who saved her from her gross geek tragedy Mar 2015 #39
+1,000!! n/t YarnAddict Mar 2015 #48
She doesn't sound like she is kissing the ground those doctors walk on HockeyMom Mar 2015 #52
she was not legally competent to make that determination, and geek tragedy Mar 2015 #53
This! smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #67
What kind of risks do corpses run for secondary cancers and fertility issues? NickB79 Mar 2015 #63
and you and others are writing as though the state forcibly medicating somebody against their will magical thyme Mar 2015 #66
These can be tough issues. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #51
I struggled w/acceptance of recommended chemo, and did a LOT of research wordpix Mar 2015 #55
The other problem is that if you allow a 17 year old to take medical control, when is the cut off? F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #56
Congrats! Best wishes for continued health... and a great life! deurbano Mar 2015 #61
yipes. The state compelling someone to take medicine. This is not a good thing. Doctor_J Mar 2015 #64
Niiiiiiice . . . YarnAddict Mar 2015 #73
teens are impulsive people. I'm happy she survived & hope Jackie is happier today too. Sunlei Mar 2015 #72
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