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(29,876 posts) Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:54 PM Mar 2015

Government Backs Off From Banning Assault Rifle Bullet [View all]

Source: CNNMoney

Agency receives 80,000 comments on proposal, most of them against the ban

UPDATED 3:11 PM EDT Mar 10, 2015

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) —Amid a massive outcry from gun enthusiasts, the government has backed away from a proposed ban on a specific bullet used in assault rifles that can pierce vests and body armor worn by police officers.

In a bid to protect police officers, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had recently announced a proposal to ban the armor-piercing M855 bullet, which is used in assault rifles such as the AR-15.

However, when the agency opened its proposal to public comment, it received a tsunami of 80,000 comments, most of them against the ban.

"The vast majority comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study," said the ATF. "Accordingly, ATF will not at this time seek to issue a final framework."

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Government Backs Off From Banning Assault Rifle Bullet [View all] Purveyor Mar 2015 OP

bloody cowards niyad Mar 2015 #1

When you get 80k letter saying stop yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #2

They get more for pot legalization Politicalboi Mar 2015 #4

The ATF does not handle anything to do with drugs Reter Mar 2015 #54

Not to be a smart arse, but Kurska Mar 2015 #75

wow--way less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the adult population is NOT a "big percentage." niyad Mar 2015 #5

We have a little over 100 million adults in USA yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #12

Oh damn. Forget my dumb post. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #13

"(H)ow do you know no support letters were sent?" Undoubtedly, some were friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #14

Where were the "grassroots gun safety organizations" during all this? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #15

Asleep, apparently. No wonder they can't win, despite all the noise they make friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #17

Over 150K to enforce the Logan Act against #47Traitors. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #40

That is because there is a legal standard... Oktober Mar 2015 #64

What the did fits the standard of the Logan Act perfectly. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #71

How should notice and comment rules operated under the Administrative Procedure Act? jberryhill Mar 2015 #3

Useless ban anyway. It would not have made a single person safer. n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #10

Ya but then again getting a bullet ban past the scotus could be next to impossible. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #11

You have a strange definition of "cowards." NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #26

the government has been ignoring the will of the people since forever frylock Mar 2015 #31

No doubt. That doesn't mean it's right. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #57

caving in to the gun nuts is PRECISELY that. niyad Mar 2015 #38

Nonsense. beevul Mar 2015 #41

You see no value in considering public opinion? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #55

Just the right people... Oktober Mar 2015 #65

Yes, of course. The "enlightened." NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #68

What did *your* email to the ATF say? How many others did you get to write them? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #67

I've seen this question get asked about 10 times now. Kurska Mar 2015 #78

Campaign and political party funding Geronimoe Mar 2015 #6

The NRA is certainly good at pulling its' members' strings groundloop Mar 2015 #7

This was a brilliant marketing strategy to get people to buy basically junk that has no market. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #8

M855 ammunition isn't "junk", is legal in New Jersey, and was already quite popular friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #16

While it is quite popular, it's most definitely junk. Least accurate thing I've ever used. sir pball Mar 2015 #47

Wait, as if *any* centerfire rifle (.308, 30-30, .30-06, .243, etc) wouldn't pierce a typical vest?? X_Digger Mar 2015 #9

not exactly well communicated that ATF was taking comments wordpix Mar 2015 #18

Its not like they cant be contacted Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #52

gun humpers are well-organized Skittles Mar 2015 #19

Amused by the fauxtrage Shamash Mar 2015 #20

the NRA is what is organized Skittles Mar 2015 #42

Will you be posting the letter you wrote to the ATF? Lurks Often Mar 2015 #23

Straight out of the gun ban playbook. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #25

So nice of the dems to manufacture this victory for the 'publicons! RandiFan1290 Mar 2015 #21

Finally some common sense from those who seek to control... ileus Mar 2015 #22

Good decision. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #24

"Amid a massive astroturfed outcry from the gun lobby and its impotent stooges..." Orsino Mar 2015 #27

bingo riversedge Mar 2015 #29

"Astroturfed" - you just broke my irony meter hack89 Mar 2015 #34

What's the irony? Orsino Mar 2015 #35

The irony is that the gun control movement is astroturf. hack89 Mar 2015 #37

The gun owners were driven to reflexive anger by the astroturfing of the gun lobby. Orsino Mar 2015 #45

Let me get this strait... beevul Mar 2015 #46

The gun enthusiasts who panicked at this nothing of a story... Orsino Mar 2015 #48

Wow, and I thought I had seen "over the top" before. beevul Mar 2015 #49

Bloomberg and Watts are not financing an astroturfed gun control movement. Orsino Mar 2015 #70

Bloomberg has done all those things Kurska Mar 2015 #77

He doesn't have or wield anywhere near the influence of the gun lobby. No one does. Orsino Mar 2015 #79

Explain why, then, in the colorado recalls bloomberg outspent gun rights groups by a factor of 5-1 beevul Mar 2015 #80

Probably because he's very, very late to this party. Orsino Mar 2015 #81

"but the official voice of the NRA opposes them all" beevul Mar 2015 #83

A snowball from seven years ago disproves global warming? Orsino Mar 2015 #87

THANK YOU Skittles Mar 2015 #43

Any annoyance caused by your insults is well soothed by the knowledge of your political inefficacy friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #62

back at you LeftOfWest Mar 2015 #66

umm.. gives me hope--not for the bullet ban but for other riversedge Mar 2015 #28

80,000 is not a tsunami Skittles Mar 2015 #61

It is when the supporters of the ban largely did nothing friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #63

why should it have been banned if it wouldnt make a single person safer? fxstc Mar 2015 #30

It was a dumbass idea to begin with. aikoaiko Mar 2015 #32

In the early 90's didn't H. W. Bush decry "cop killer" bullets underpants Mar 2015 #33

Yup, and the NRA now hates him Reter Mar 2015 #56

Well I Hope The Signature's For The Iran 47 Petition Spur This Kind Of Action... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #36

It's not over yet. VScott Mar 2015 #39

paranoid assholes need their stuff Skittles Mar 2015 #44

Next it will be RPG. Nuthin in the Cornstitushun sez we can't have rockets !!!! Monk06 Mar 2015 #50

don't underestimate what paranoid assholes think they need Skittles Mar 2015 #53

You enjoy your hyperbole, don't you? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #58

It's called a Type 10 Destructive Device license Lurks Often Mar 2015 #60

assuming that every one of those 80,000 replies is from a different person, guillaumeb Mar 2015 #51

Your math goes the other way also. former9thward Mar 2015 #59

or the NRA sent out an action alert guillaumeb Mar 2015 #72

Yes, and by that math Democrats are supported by something like 16% of the electorate. former9thward Mar 2015 #73

The real question is "why voter apathy?" guillaumeb Mar 2015 #74

Finally some common sense applied to the 2A. ileus Mar 2015 #69

It is amazing to me Kurska Mar 2015 #76

It's very easy to 'game' the Gov.s public comments section.good media company w/ macro program. Sunlei Mar 2015 #82

The police vest are designed only to stop pistol bullets hack89 Mar 2015 #84

And yet the gun control groups haven't "gamed" the .gov public comment section, Lurks Often Mar 2015 #85

Pistols go right through cars. Rifles penetrate anything but armor plate. sir pball Mar 2015 #86