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du_grad

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47. I found a link from CDC that disproves your statement
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:14 AM
Mar 2015
http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-questions-and-answers.html#related-outbreaks

"How many outbreaks are related to raw milk?

CDC collects data on foodborne disease outbreaks voluntarily reported by the state, local, territorial, or tribal health departments. The health departments conduct most outbreak investigations reported to CDC. The data reported may change frequently as reporting agencies enter new records and modify or delete old ones.

Among dairy product-associated outbreaks reported to CDC between 1998 and 2011 in which the investigators reported whether the product was pasteurized or raw, 79% were due to raw milk or cheese. From 1998 through 2011, 148 outbreaks due to consumption of raw milk or raw milk products were reported to CDC. These resulted in 2,384 illnesses, 284 hospitalizations, and 2 deaths. Most of these illnesses were caused by Escherichia coli, Campylobacter, Salmonella, or Listeria. It is important to note that a substantial proportion of the raw milk-associated disease burden falls on children; among the 104 outbreaks from 1998-2011 with information on the patients’ ages available, 82% involved at least one person younger than 20 years old.

Reported outbreaks represent the tip of the iceberg. For every outbreak and every illness reported, many others occur, and most illnesses are not part of recognized outbreaks.

Are there more outbreaks related to raw milk in states where it is legal to sell?

Yes. States that allow the legal sale of raw milk for human consumption have more raw milk-related outbreaks of illness than states that do not allow raw milk to be sold legally.

For more information about outbreaks related to raw milk, see the main findings of "Nonpasteurized Dairy Products, Disease Outbreaks, and State Laws—United States, 1993-2006."

http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/nonpasteurized-outbreaks.html

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No link has ever been proven Warpy Mar 2015 #44
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Well, Grandma also came from the generation that boiled the hell out of everything Warpy Mar 2015 #11
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Yes, there's a good reason the sale of raw milk is banned Warpy Mar 2015 #17
The sale of raw milk isn't banned Major Nikon Mar 2015 #23
I found a link from CDC that disproves your statement du_grad Mar 2015 #47
It doesn't disprove my statement Major Nikon Mar 2015 #50
I have read both closely du_grad Mar 2015 #60
So where's the contradiction? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #62
Why is this getting you so upset? du_grad Mar 2015 #64
I'm more amused Major Nikon Mar 2015 #67
IF you lived in Europe, you would likely have some resistance to listeria. Drahthaardogs Mar 2015 #25
Goat milk is a bit different Warpy Mar 2015 #36
It does not matter. Unless you eat raw milk or cheese you are not exposed. Drahthaardogs Mar 2015 #37
The ones I've gone to are very small operations Warpy Mar 2015 #45
Resistance vs. vulnerability du_grad Mar 2015 #48
Generally speaking, repeated exposures to listeria does develop a sort of resistance to it Drahthaardogs Mar 2015 #49
Listeria is all around us and it's virtually impossible not to be exposed to it Major Nikon Mar 2015 #55
I said it was ubiquitous Drahthaardogs Mar 2015 #57
There's also a certainly level of innate immunity Major Nikon Mar 2015 #59
Pasteurization and cooking are two different things. du_grad Mar 2015 #58
Food + Heat = Cooking Major Nikon Mar 2015 #61
I am in clinical microbiology du_grad Mar 2015 #63
The fact that you use processes well over and above what's required for pasteurization... Major Nikon Mar 2015 #65
Just sayin' what? nt du_grad Mar 2015 #66
I find those who feign illiteracy quite amusing Major Nikon Mar 2015 #68
In other words, you have anecdotal evidence only du_grad Mar 2015 #56
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