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73. A lot depends on the actions of the Palestinians.

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:21 AM

Mar 2015

They have never missed the opportunity to make the absolutely wrong decision so don't count on them to make the process easier. Take for example, what would happen if Iran wins out in Iraq and Syria and starts a proxy war against Israel using Hamas and Hezbollah. Then the US would have to choose between Iran and Israel; between Israel and Hamas. Who do you think they would pick?

What happens if Palestinian society fractures, with Gaza going one direction and the West Bank the other as groups pick sides in the ongoing crisis? The Fatah/Hamas split has never been resolved - that is why there have been no elections. Who can serious imagine a Palestinian state if the Palestinians are in a state of civil war?

The ME is undergoing a fundamental realignment. Your assumption that the welfare of the Palestinians will trump practical geopolitical concerns may not be true, especially if the Palestinians place themselves on the wrong side of the equation.

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Netanyahu: If I'm elected, there will be no Palestinian state [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2015 OP

Jeeze, I really hope that the people of his country see this jerk off for what he is tomorrow.... winstars Mar 2015 #1

If they don't, supporting Israel becomes morally indefensible nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #2

I hope that realize that it becomes about them stopping ANY peace process if they he wins again. winstars Mar 2015 #4

I agree -- and see this as a desperation move on Netanyahu's part karynnj Mar 2015 #23

Then the same would apply to the U.S. if one of current republicans win in 2016 wouldn't it? It still_one Mar 2015 #52

as bad as Bush was, apartheid is worse nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #56

Tell that to the million dead in Iraq. How about Viet Nam, or what we did in South America still_one Mar 2015 #57

Bush actually favored a two-state solution. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #63

actions spoke louder than words, and his actions counteracted all of that still_one Mar 2015 #64

I considered it morally indefensible after liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #86

I'm not sure that anything is really going to change WRT the Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 #41

Totally agree with you on that! mazzarro Mar 2015 #47

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That man is evil. n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #3

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well, this is one time to hope the polls are right and hollysmom Mar 2015 #5

Something is wrong with him. bravenak Mar 2015 #6

You're right. Something is wrong with all extreme Right-Wingers. Cal33 Mar 2015 #20

He's he's on quite a mission to remove all doubt of where he stands on the issue herding cats Mar 2015 #7

What the West won't admit: '...Jerusalem - which the Palestinians see as their future capital...' freshwest Mar 2015 #68

This is good news... brooklynite Mar 2015 #8

I hope you're right. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #10

Hopefully another political party there will find a way to address the freshwest Mar 2015 #80

At least Netanyahu is telling the truth for once. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #9

And he won't be elected.... android fan Mar 2015 #19

hopefully, but just as here, I think there are no sure things still_one Mar 2015 #60

Do they have electronic voting machines over there? Helen Borg Mar 2015 #11

Not yet starroute Mar 2015 #14

Again, I will say it ann--- Mar 2015 #12

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The thing is, you really CAN'T want peace if you lead the Likud Party. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #67

Exactly..... ann--- Mar 2015 #89

I seriously doubt there will be a Palestinian State, regardless Martin Eden Mar 2015 #13

Okay, time for a single state solution. Everyone votes. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #15

There are 1.7 million Arab Israeli citizens, part of what we are seeing with this election is Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #28

The vote needs to be extended to all residents of the occupied lands, too. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #35

Good Old Fashioned Fear To Scare Up Votes, Is Rove In His Campaign LOL... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #16

Well, his polls are dropping like a stone... android fan Mar 2015 #17

As far as I read about this sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #18

He's not just malevolent, he's utterly evil. longship Mar 2015 #21

This is exactly why Bibi needs to be booted Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #22

Finally the truth about his views comes out Renew Deal Mar 2015 #24

Wow there must be truth to the polls if he's trying to shore up right-wing support. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #25

Plan on losing then merciless agitator libodem Mar 2015 #26

I can't believe your own God would allow you to destroy a race of people. AlbertCat Mar 2015 #29

Hmmm? libodem Mar 2015 #31

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What's that smell? BadGimp Mar 2015 #27

Here's hoping he's thrown out of office. But I do believe the GOP would sinkingfeeling Mar 2015 #30

Not that there will be one under Herzog and Zipper, though Scootaloo Mar 2015 #32

No, but at least there's a tiny chance for dialogue. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #33

Oh yes. Talking about talks about talks to have talks about talks that may lead to talks about talks Scootaloo Mar 2015 #36

I'm pretty sure that is better than Aerows Mar 2015 #40

Marginally Scootaloo Mar 2015 #46

Same logic some are using if Hillary becomes the nominee verses any of the republicans. It is BS still_one Mar 2015 #62

There are no meaningful differences on the issue of Palestine Scootaloo Mar 2015 #65

you are wrong, and if Netanyahu loses you will see a renewed effort still_one Mar 2015 #66

No, I'm not. i WISH I were wrong Scootaloo Mar 2015 #87

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Perhaps it's time albino65 Mar 2015 #37

Why not? A few nuclear bombs would resolve the matter pretty quickly. nt hack89 Mar 2015 #76

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As if he would stop at Palestine. n/t djean111 Mar 2015 #38

Nein! blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #44

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He's hoping this will get the right-wingers out to vote. Chemisse Mar 2015 #39

Perhaps Bibi hasn't gone far enough...? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 #42

Netanyahu: If I'm elected, there will be no PEACE Botany Mar 2015 #43

Shuffle the deck father founding Mar 2015 #49

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finish how e-cigdub Mar 2015 #50

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with all that going for them RedstDem Mar 2015 #77

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Nominally Luke Zee Mar 2015 #48

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He Loves to Fear Monger. . . B Calm Mar 2015 #51

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What does he think should be done with them, then? Mike Nelson Mar 2015 #53

It is hard to imagine a Palestinian state regardless of who is in charge hack89 Mar 2015 #69

the choice then is apartheid or a one-state solution with Israel losing its Jewish essence. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #70

There will never be one state. hack89 Mar 2015 #71

Then Israel becomes South Africa redux, and becomes an international pariah. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #72

A lot depends on the actions of the Palestinians. hack89 Mar 2015 #73

and what happens if Abbas simply says "we're disbanding the PA and applying for Israeli citizenship geek tragedy Mar 2015 #74

Hamas would kill him and attempt a violent takeover of the West Bank like they did in Gaza. hack89 Mar 2015 #75

if the PA disbands, Israel has the obligation to be the law and order in the West Bank geek tragedy Mar 2015 #78

If the residents are engaged in a civil war hack89 Mar 2015 #79

Benjamin has to go Yonx Mar 2015 #88