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22. And he's exactly right. This party needs to be about ALL the constituencies.

Thu Mar 19, 2015, 06:42 AM

Mar 2015

When men, especially white working class men who used to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, have left the party in droves to vote for asshole Republicans who exist to destroy their jobs and unions, there is a problem. There is a disconnect. We are supposed to be the party of working Americans, and we need to message to this group that the Republicans are rotten bastards who are not working in their economic interest at all.

There are other issues where we have lost too many of these voters. It is ok for Democrats to who hunt and sport shoot to SAY SO and support RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP.

It is ok for Christian Democrats to say they are Christian.

It is ok for Democrats to say that able-bodied people can and should WORK (though we should also say that we are working to help create jobs with living wages for them to work in).

There are NO conflicts between these things and ANYTHING the Democratic Party stands for. Nothing. Just look at FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy, LBJ, and Bill Clinton. All successful Democratic leaders and ALL would entirely agree with me.

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Jim Webb Quietly Meeting With Dems Looking For Clinton Alternative [View all] candelista Mar 2015 OP

For those who think Citizens United is ever going away, just check the smugness of the djean111 Mar 2015 #1

Elections = dog and pony shows. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #3

You have to admit, $$ can present a powerful argument. delrem Mar 2015 #6

Exactly. djean111 Mar 2015 #7

Perhaps she has...just not to you and the purists... brooklynite Mar 2015 #30

I don't think being realistic is being smug--money and the ability to rake it in has always been a MADem Mar 2015 #9

webb should run as a republican. he would be a breath of fresh air...for them nt msongs Mar 2015 #2

Yes. He's a Republican. delrem Mar 2015 #4

He switched parties and was the Democratic Senator from VA for a term. MADem Mar 2015 #13

Look at the clown car from the Republican party, on the front page now. delrem Mar 2015 #14

Well, I'm backing a candidate who hasn't declared yet. There are others who have MADem Mar 2015 #17

...and so is the HP Chellatious Mar 2015 #63

Hilliary was a Goldwater girl RedstDem Mar 2015 #24

Neither of them are the candidate working folks need. Myrina Mar 2015 #41

no MFM008 Mar 2015 #5

Hilliary was a Goldwater girl RedstDem Mar 2015 #25

Goldwater > Reagan Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #26

yep RedstDem Mar 2015 #27

Not even. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #29

maybe personally for you RedstDem Mar 2015 #31

Goldwater was pro-choice and outspoken over the religious right taking over the GOP. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #32

I think you're talking about two Goldwater's. When he first ran in WestSeattle2 Mar 2015 #74

He was a fire breather - but even then, I'd put him to the left of Reagan in the 80s. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #81

FFS, she was a teenager at the time of Goldwater. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #38

The number one stupid argument against HRC OKNancy Mar 2015 #48

I'll second that! Chellatious Mar 2015 #64

Re: OK Nancy LeFleur1 Mar 2015 #91

She was in high school in 1964 (she graduated college in 1969) - she worked on the McGovern campaign karynnj Mar 2015 #68

Jim Webb: Democrats need to focus more on 'white, working people' michello Mar 2015 #8

What a dick. nt delrem Mar 2015 #10

I don't like the way that's coming across, frankly. MADem Mar 2015 #11

He is, however, HRC's perfect opponent in a primary contest. sweet. delrem Mar 2015 #15

I don't think he'll get much support--except, maybe, from the GOP! nt MADem Mar 2015 #18

He's got plenty of support from Dems. delrem Mar 2015 #19

No, he won as a slightly more reasonable, more "military" (in a military state), more MADem Mar 2015 #20

Even then, without the Macaca comment, Webb would've never won. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #28

All VA races in the last 10 years have been pretty close. VA is a truly divided purple state. FSogol Mar 2015 #43

Well, if you're of a certain age, you know who he was...might not translate to any clout, of course! MADem Mar 2015 #46

How about his positions on foreign policy, Wall Street, and the criminal justice system? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #56

You sure about that? Or are you morphing? MADem Mar 2015 #57

These are REALLY old stories! elias49 Mar 2015 #94

He's very conservative. I don't think he has changed that much. MADem Mar 2015 #95

It was still an epic win Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #73

That is a fair point--Allen was the Favorite Son for that VP gig. nt MADem Mar 2015 #96

Blue collar whites--especially men consistently vote Republican. Why not try and get some of them? bklyncowgirl Mar 2015 #21

True, but also remember that half the people in this country don't vote. Those are the votes he FSogol Mar 2015 #44

And he's exactly right. This party needs to be about ALL the constituencies. RBInMaine Mar 2015 #22

As a stated in my previous post: michello Mar 2015 #47

You are quoting yourself? candelista Mar 2015 #54

As michello Mar 2015 #60

Actually, I didn't read it. candelista Mar 2015 #61

I Believe RobinA Mar 2015 #35

I keep telling ppl this, but they don't seem to believe me. IMO, the Dems won't be Nay Mar 2015 #37

What have you got against white working people? candelista Mar 2015 #53

Misconstrued Chellatious Mar 2015 #65

He's an alternative davidpdx Mar 2015 #12

Warren IS NOT RUNNING, WILL NOT RUN, DOES NOT WANT TO RUN, and COULD NOT WIN. RBInMaine Mar 2015 #23

RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!! frylock Mar 2015 #52

There is not going to be a coronation davidpdx Mar 2015 #62

who? stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #16

Mr Confederate Sympathizer. Sure, that'll work! leftofcool Mar 2015 #33

Webb is NOT an alternative for Democrats. Vinca Mar 2015 #34

Ipse dixit. candelista Mar 2015 #58

You mean, someone more racist than she is? No thanks. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #36

That implies you think Hillary Clinton is racist. Would you mind giving me some background KittyWampus Mar 2015 #39

Yes. I absolutely do! See her behavior in 2007 and 2008 for plenty of examples. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #40

Bill Clinton was called the first black president...until there WAS one. Chellatious Mar 2015 #66

Bill Clinton is an asshole, so who gives a fuck about him. I don't. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #77

Girl!!! bravenak Mar 2015 #76

The Clinton alternative is sure as hell not Jim fucking Webb. Arkana Mar 2015 #42

He's close to being the anti clinton RedstDem Mar 2015 #45

The 'we are too liberal for Hillary' folks need to find at least one candidate who is not a former Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #49

"Racist"? 'Homophobic"? candelista Mar 2015 #55

He worked with Mrs. Clinton. Wish he would stop saying he will run if he gets enough money...... Sunlei Mar 2015 #50

Sorry, those looking fredamae Mar 2015 #51

Here are some of his positions on the issues: candelista Mar 2015 #59

Wish he'd stuck around for the hard votes Chellatious Mar 2015 #67

No Thanks, He Isn't Even A Real Democrat, He's An Opportunist Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #69

And Hillary isn't? candelista Mar 2015 #71

Has She Ever Switched Political Parties? Yes Hillary Is A Real Democrat... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #86

The opposite of 'opportunist' is not 'Democrat.' candelista Mar 2015 #88

I'm Simply Suggesting Mr.Webb Switched Parties To Further His Political Career... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #92

If Jim Webb is such a great Democrat then why LiberalFighter Mar 2015 #70

Because... candelista Mar 2015 #72

So you didn't bother checking it out. LiberalFighter Mar 2015 #80

I just didn't see much difference between the different dot maps. candelista Mar 2015 #83

very misleading OKNancy Mar 2015 #85

Citation? candelista Mar 2015 #87

It's on the ADA website OKNancy Mar 2015 #89

Another almost-70 something running for prez?! Come on. WestSeattle2 Mar 2015 #75

Yep. BlueStater Mar 2015 #82

I'm all for an alternative to HRC -- but NOT Jim Webb! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2015 #78

Is there a chance we can get an actual Democrat to run? PeteSelman Mar 2015 #79

Oh, I see what you did there...Hillary Clinton isn't a "real" Democrat... brooklynite Mar 2015 #90

Correct. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #93

''Quiet Meetings?'' -- Headliner at AP, carried by HuffPo and posted on DU-LBN. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #84

kick HR_Pufnstuf Apr 2015 #97