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HassleCat

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Wed Mar 25, 2015, 02:30 PM

Mar 2015

Many people propose Bergdahl should have been abandoned because he was not the brave American hero we know all of our military personnel to be. Ever watch TV? The show about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) focuses mostly on crimes committed on military personnel by various criminals, with navy members being the victims. Once in a while, you get to see an episode where NCIS is shown doing what it does most of the time, investigating navy personnel who do bad things. Gasp! Some of the heroes are criminals, not brave guardians of the American Way. Bergdahl threatens the image.

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Bowe Bergdahl Charged With Desertion, Lawyer Says [View all] alp227 Mar 2015 OP

Was he the guy we traded strawberries Mar 2015 #1

You would prefer he remain with the captors? blm Mar 2015 #2

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So you don't believe in leaving no soldier behind, then tishaLA Mar 2015 #6

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Great lesson: we show had bad it is to desert fellow soldiers tishaLA Mar 2015 #15

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It appears to be no more effective a lesson not to desert tishaLA Mar 2015 #42

Besides, charged is not the same as convicted. Punishment is supposed to *follow*, not precede tblue37 Mar 2015 #134

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Jury Results stone space Mar 2015 #51

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You got a link to that rule? Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Mar 2015 #98

Good Grief.. No doubt! Rofl Cha Mar 2015 #104

I have never heard of that rule. Besides, it's not as though the jurors' names are tblue37 Mar 2015 #135

Nor has Skinner Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #139

Are you a new administrator of this site? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2015 #68

Oh? Why is that? This isn't Stalinist Russia! DU is pretty darn open forum. Everybody on MIRT, for.. marble falls Mar 2015 #69

dafuq NuclearDem Mar 2015 #72

I was the alerter, not a Juror, and anybody here is free to put me on their Jury Backlist. stone space Mar 2015 #74

Just curious, did you have a problem with stevenleser's comment on your alert and.... Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #75

"Gloating" is an odd characterization of Juror #2's verdict and comment. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #80

How does posting results compromise the jurors' anonymity when their identities are not revealed? nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #136

It doesn't Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #140

HEre's the result of my alert on your post that claimed TOS rules that don't exist....5-2 msanthrope Mar 2015 #84

Good.. I think a HIDE is warranted for spreading false information so blatantly. TY,M Cha Mar 2015 #105

Just doing my part. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #119

Jury results pintobean Mar 2015 #85

Waaaaay over the line.Self delete! marble falls Mar 2015 #66

Soldier DustyJoe Mar 2015 #71

If he "removed his 'soldier' identity," I guess that means there will be no court martial tishaLA Mar 2015 #78

Totally Agree DustyJoe Mar 2015 #83

You're agreeing with yourself, not me tishaLA Mar 2015 #86

Well said. N/t BojackFan Mar 2015 #102

Why? blm Mar 2015 #9

Because Elmergantry Mar 2015 #12

That wasn't established. It was established that he had vulnerabilities blm Mar 2015 #16

well then Elmergantry Mar 2015 #20

It will go to court. I'm merely responding to thoughtless posts with logic blm Mar 2015 #23

The Obama Admin Elmergantry Mar 2015 #30

That's absurd. I suppose Bush Admin MUST have known that some soldiers blm Mar 2015 #33

Not absurd at all. Elmergantry Mar 2015 #46

They also claimed that 8 soldiers were killed searching for him and that proved blm Mar 2015 #47

The Obama Administration is not judge and jury. hamsterjill Mar 2015 #45

I don't understand why some don't get blm Mar 2015 #48

But they sure would want that system of justice if it were them on the hot seat hamsterjill Mar 2015 #49

If you knew anything about the case you would know that Obama based his decision on the full RBInMaine Mar 2015 #63

I've taken some truly horrible advice. Igel Mar 2015 #87

".. we don't leave troops on the battlefield. We get them out, and then let military justice do its Cha Mar 2015 #107

".. we don't leave troops on the battlefield. We get them out, and then let military justice do its Cha Mar 2015 #106

So, sentence a US soldier to probable torture and eventual death... gcomeau Mar 2015 #10

Just like Barack and American Muslims killed on foreign soil by Drones. No trial, no jury. n/t BP2 Mar 2015 #41

I suppose that shift can make one feel clever�.however... blm Mar 2015 #43

You join terrorists on foreign soil, you have no right to a trial. Sorry. 7962 Mar 2015 #54

wrong place, sorry, 7962 Cha Mar 2015 #109

I was referring to the post criticizing Obama's drone program, not Bergdahl nt 7962 Mar 2015 #112

Sorry, I meant "wrong place" for my post.. It was a self-delete kind of thing. Cha Mar 2015 #114

No worries!! 7962 Mar 2015 #115

And also wrong. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #95

You didn't answer the question. Cha Mar 2015 #108

So you think we should just outsource the UCMJ to terrorists? jberryhill Mar 2015 #24

It's a question of how appropriate the deal is... Oktober Mar 2015 #56

You make the best point Oktober Yupster Mar 2015 #128

Glad you think so... Oktober Mar 2015 #129

No Quackers Mar 2015 #35

You care so much about our military but you've never heard of PTSD? nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #52

Our military NewEnglandGirl Mar 2015 #76

Sure HassleCat Mar 2015 #7

I would prefer strawberries Mar 2015 #11

So YOUR terms were doable at the time? blm Mar 2015 #17

I did not, but I strawberries Mar 2015 #22

LOL - Oh really? Funny, since the Pentagon said that never happened. blm Mar 2015 #27

oh the pentagon said it strawberries Mar 2015 #28

Well, tell us what the 'families' told you personally, strawberries. blm Mar 2015 #31

Here is two, strawberries Mar 2015 #34

You spoke with both families personally and they told you�. blm Mar 2015 #37

give it a rest strawberries Mar 2015 #38

I'm calmer than a cucumber and asking you to back up your statements. blm Mar 2015 #39

Cool stories, little fella... LanternWaste Mar 2015 #59

thanks big guy? nt strawberries Mar 2015 #61

No more replies from that poster, I'm afraid cyberswede Mar 2015 #122

I am calmly saying awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #81

Except that in many cases the waters are a bit muddied. Igel Mar 2015 #88

I think you'd better cease with the "talking down" and explain your remarks if you MADem Mar 2015 #121

I think it's sad that their deaths are being used for RW political-attack fodder. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #91

If it is true Elmergantry Mar 2015 #32

Anyone actually following the story knew that did NOT happen. blm Mar 2015 #36

As usual it is up to interpretation and agenda... Oktober Mar 2015 #44

bwahahahaha!! frylock Mar 2015 #62

"Leave no man behind" truebluegreen Mar 2015 #8

Naaa. christx30 Mar 2015 #64

Didn't say it should be his total punishment. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #94

If someone commits an armed christx30 Mar 2015 #137

What should be the punishment for the army taking in a mentally/emotionally unsuitable recruit? truebluegreen Mar 2015 #138

Oh looky Android3.14 Mar 2015 #18

yes I am special strawberries Mar 2015 #19

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First, leave no one behind means leave no one behind. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #73

Interesting HassleCat Mar 2015 #3

Forrest Gump mybuddy Mar 2015 #4

Some go in with mental disorders and return in worsened states. blm Mar 2015 #14

Well, you can claim anything you want about Forrest Gump and the people he saved Android3.14 Mar 2015 #21

That was not a documentary, incidentally jberryhill Mar 2015 #25

That is a fictional character, right? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #26

He wasn't the only one that walked away, Historic NY Mar 2015 #29

This was going to blow up from the start. There were many other ways to get him back, 7962 Mar 2015 #53

What other ways? We couldn't TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #57

There were back channel connections we should've used that we'd used in the past. 7962 Mar 2015 #58

Four ways to go: 1-- leave him there until they kill him or he commits TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #60

Seems appropriate in this case madville Mar 2015 #55

charged but not convicted. What would have happened if he wasn't 'captured'? Sunlei Mar 2015 #70

They need to let things proceed in the most fair way possible--including TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #77

Agreed. 100%. He still can't even bear to see his family riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #89

Well Done, TG.. Excellent analysis. Cha Mar 2015 #110

Desertion is a serious crime. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #79

This post certainly attracted right wing scum abelenkpe Mar 2015 #82

Agreed. You know it's all political, no one cared about this guy until TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #93

Sure they did. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #101

BINGO!!!!! blm Mar 2015 #116

Yes it did, and should be noted by all. Darb Mar 2015 #97

40+ years in the Army and I say let the military justice system take it's course. GGJohn Mar 2015 #99

Military prosecutors have an over 90% conviction rate NobodyHere Mar 2015 #90

Done? TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #92

All prosecutors, civilian or otherwise, have an over 90% conviction rate. former9thward Mar 2015 #141

Good thing they support Bowe back home. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #100

What's atrocious about it? Oktober Mar 2015 #113

You mean you don't know? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #125

+1,000 Bohunk68 Mar 2015 #127

I'm glad we got him back gwheezie Mar 2015 #103

Well this certainly took the press away from Ted Cruz! B Calm Mar 2015 #111

And the whole Iran letter treason. Hugin Mar 2015 #117

The real traitors walk free at the expense of an mentally disturbed enlisted man. B Calm Mar 2015 #118

Well, this thread went to shit in a hurry! But back to the topic, he is CHARGED, not CONVICTED. MADem Mar 2015 #120

Desertion from an unjust war is a public service. Larry Engels Mar 2015 #123

I can guarantee you that the people who will decide his fate will not agree with you. MADem Mar 2015 #124

If I was in Bergdahl's seat NobodyHere Mar 2015 #130

I suspect he's ALREADY explicitly admitted guilt during those interrogations while he was MADem Mar 2015 #131

Bowe cooperated with the Army investigators when he returned to the U.S. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #132

He may not have thought he was admitting guilt, but if, as the earlier reports suggest, MADem Mar 2015 #133

The real scandal here Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #126