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DustyJoe

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83. Totally Agree

Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:56 PM

Mar 2015

He was, after desertion, one of the enemy, maybe not in combat (no one knows for certain) but in the least collaberation with the enemy. So yes, I agree, no military court martial. This deserter, traitor, enemy collaborator should be in a dark hole in gitmo awaiting a military tribunal. And no, he should not be considered a 'soldier' and I wager no soldiers think of him as a brother in arms. He was kept on active duty for political reasons, accruing pay, awaiting charges where other deserters would have been incarcerated waiting formal charges. A simple deserter deserting his post and running for home or neutral territory should get a court martial and run out of the service, this type of desertion deserves the same treatment as the enemy he is.

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Bowe Bergdahl Charged With Desertion, Lawyer Says [View all] alp227 Mar 2015 OP

Was he the guy we traded strawberries Mar 2015 #1

You would prefer he remain with the captors? blm Mar 2015 #2

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So you don't believe in leaving no soldier behind, then tishaLA Mar 2015 #6

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Great lesson: we show had bad it is to desert fellow soldiers tishaLA Mar 2015 #15

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It appears to be no more effective a lesson not to desert tishaLA Mar 2015 #42

Besides, charged is not the same as convicted. Punishment is supposed to *follow*, not precede tblue37 Mar 2015 #134

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Jury Results stone space Mar 2015 #51

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You got a link to that rule? Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Mar 2015 #98

Good Grief.. No doubt! Rofl Cha Mar 2015 #104

I have never heard of that rule. Besides, it's not as though the jurors' names are tblue37 Mar 2015 #135

Nor has Skinner Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #139

Are you a new administrator of this site? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2015 #68

Oh? Why is that? This isn't Stalinist Russia! DU is pretty darn open forum. Everybody on MIRT, for.. marble falls Mar 2015 #69

dafuq NuclearDem Mar 2015 #72

I was the alerter, not a Juror, and anybody here is free to put me on their Jury Backlist. stone space Mar 2015 #74

Just curious, did you have a problem with stevenleser's comment on your alert and.... Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #75

"Gloating" is an odd characterization of Juror #2's verdict and comment. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #80

How does posting results compromise the jurors' anonymity when their identities are not revealed? nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #136

It doesn't Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #140

HEre's the result of my alert on your post that claimed TOS rules that don't exist....5-2 msanthrope Mar 2015 #84

Good.. I think a HIDE is warranted for spreading false information so blatantly. TY,M Cha Mar 2015 #105

Just doing my part. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #119

Jury results pintobean Mar 2015 #85

Waaaaay over the line.Self delete! marble falls Mar 2015 #66

Soldier DustyJoe Mar 2015 #71

If he "removed his 'soldier' identity," I guess that means there will be no court martial tishaLA Mar 2015 #78

Totally Agree DustyJoe Mar 2015 #83

You're agreeing with yourself, not me tishaLA Mar 2015 #86

Well said. N/t BojackFan Mar 2015 #102

Why? blm Mar 2015 #9

Because Elmergantry Mar 2015 #12

That wasn't established. It was established that he had vulnerabilities blm Mar 2015 #16

well then Elmergantry Mar 2015 #20

It will go to court. I'm merely responding to thoughtless posts with logic blm Mar 2015 #23

The Obama Admin Elmergantry Mar 2015 #30

That's absurd. I suppose Bush Admin MUST have known that some soldiers blm Mar 2015 #33

Not absurd at all. Elmergantry Mar 2015 #46

They also claimed that 8 soldiers were killed searching for him and that proved blm Mar 2015 #47

The Obama Administration is not judge and jury. hamsterjill Mar 2015 #45

I don't understand why some don't get blm Mar 2015 #48

But they sure would want that system of justice if it were them on the hot seat hamsterjill Mar 2015 #49

If you knew anything about the case you would know that Obama based his decision on the full RBInMaine Mar 2015 #63

I've taken some truly horrible advice. Igel Mar 2015 #87

".. we don't leave troops on the battlefield. We get them out, and then let military justice do its Cha Mar 2015 #107

".. we don't leave troops on the battlefield. We get them out, and then let military justice do its Cha Mar 2015 #106

So, sentence a US soldier to probable torture and eventual death... gcomeau Mar 2015 #10

Just like Barack and American Muslims killed on foreign soil by Drones. No trial, no jury. n/t BP2 Mar 2015 #41

I suppose that shift can make one feel clever�.however... blm Mar 2015 #43

You join terrorists on foreign soil, you have no right to a trial. Sorry. 7962 Mar 2015 #54

wrong place, sorry, 7962 Cha Mar 2015 #109

I was referring to the post criticizing Obama's drone program, not Bergdahl nt 7962 Mar 2015 #112

Sorry, I meant "wrong place" for my post.. It was a self-delete kind of thing. Cha Mar 2015 #114

No worries!! 7962 Mar 2015 #115

And also wrong. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #95

You didn't answer the question. Cha Mar 2015 #108

So you think we should just outsource the UCMJ to terrorists? jberryhill Mar 2015 #24

It's a question of how appropriate the deal is... Oktober Mar 2015 #56

You make the best point Oktober Yupster Mar 2015 #128

Glad you think so... Oktober Mar 2015 #129

No Quackers Mar 2015 #35

You care so much about our military but you've never heard of PTSD? nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #52

Our military NewEnglandGirl Mar 2015 #76

Sure HassleCat Mar 2015 #7

I would prefer strawberries Mar 2015 #11

So YOUR terms were doable at the time? blm Mar 2015 #17

I did not, but I strawberries Mar 2015 #22

LOL - Oh really? Funny, since the Pentagon said that never happened. blm Mar 2015 #27

oh the pentagon said it strawberries Mar 2015 #28

Well, tell us what the 'families' told you personally, strawberries. blm Mar 2015 #31

Here is two, strawberries Mar 2015 #34

You spoke with both families personally and they told you�. blm Mar 2015 #37

give it a rest strawberries Mar 2015 #38

I'm calmer than a cucumber and asking you to back up your statements. blm Mar 2015 #39

Cool stories, little fella... LanternWaste Mar 2015 #59

thanks big guy? nt strawberries Mar 2015 #61

No more replies from that poster, I'm afraid cyberswede Mar 2015 #122

I am calmly saying awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #81

Except that in many cases the waters are a bit muddied. Igel Mar 2015 #88

I think you'd better cease with the "talking down" and explain your remarks if you MADem Mar 2015 #121

I think it's sad that their deaths are being used for RW political-attack fodder. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #91

If it is true Elmergantry Mar 2015 #32

Anyone actually following the story knew that did NOT happen. blm Mar 2015 #36

As usual it is up to interpretation and agenda... Oktober Mar 2015 #44

bwahahahaha!! frylock Mar 2015 #62

"Leave no man behind" truebluegreen Mar 2015 #8

Naaa. christx30 Mar 2015 #64

Didn't say it should be his total punishment. truebluegreen Mar 2015 #94

If someone commits an armed christx30 Mar 2015 #137

What should be the punishment for the army taking in a mentally/emotionally unsuitable recruit? truebluegreen Mar 2015 #138

Oh looky Android3.14 Mar 2015 #18

yes I am special strawberries Mar 2015 #19

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #96

First, leave no one behind means leave no one behind. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #73

Interesting HassleCat Mar 2015 #3

Forrest Gump mybuddy Mar 2015 #4

Some go in with mental disorders and return in worsened states. blm Mar 2015 #14

Well, you can claim anything you want about Forrest Gump and the people he saved Android3.14 Mar 2015 #21

That was not a documentary, incidentally jberryhill Mar 2015 #25

That is a fictional character, right? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #26

He wasn't the only one that walked away, Historic NY Mar 2015 #29

This was going to blow up from the start. There were many other ways to get him back, 7962 Mar 2015 #53

What other ways? We couldn't TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #57

There were back channel connections we should've used that we'd used in the past. 7962 Mar 2015 #58

Four ways to go: 1-- leave him there until they kill him or he commits TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #60

Seems appropriate in this case madville Mar 2015 #55

charged but not convicted. What would have happened if he wasn't 'captured'? Sunlei Mar 2015 #70

They need to let things proceed in the most fair way possible--including TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #77

Agreed. 100%. He still can't even bear to see his family riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #89

Well Done, TG.. Excellent analysis. Cha Mar 2015 #110

Desertion is a serious crime. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #79

This post certainly attracted right wing scum abelenkpe Mar 2015 #82

Agreed. You know it's all political, no one cared about this guy until TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #93

Sure they did. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #101

BINGO!!!!! blm Mar 2015 #116

Yes it did, and should be noted by all. Darb Mar 2015 #97

40+ years in the Army and I say let the military justice system take it's course. GGJohn Mar 2015 #99

Military prosecutors have an over 90% conviction rate NobodyHere Mar 2015 #90

Done? TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #92

All prosecutors, civilian or otherwise, have an over 90% conviction rate. former9thward Mar 2015 #141

Good thing they support Bowe back home. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #100

What's atrocious about it? Oktober Mar 2015 #113

You mean you don't know? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #125

+1,000 Bohunk68 Mar 2015 #127

I'm glad we got him back gwheezie Mar 2015 #103

Well this certainly took the press away from Ted Cruz! B Calm Mar 2015 #111

And the whole Iran letter treason. Hugin Mar 2015 #117

The real traitors walk free at the expense of an mentally disturbed enlisted man. B Calm Mar 2015 #118

Well, this thread went to shit in a hurry! But back to the topic, he is CHARGED, not CONVICTED. MADem Mar 2015 #120

Desertion from an unjust war is a public service. Larry Engels Mar 2015 #123

I can guarantee you that the people who will decide his fate will not agree with you. MADem Mar 2015 #124

If I was in Bergdahl's seat NobodyHere Mar 2015 #130

I suspect he's ALREADY explicitly admitted guilt during those interrogations while he was MADem Mar 2015 #131

Bowe cooperated with the Army investigators when he returned to the U.S. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #132

He may not have thought he was admitting guilt, but if, as the earlier reports suggest, MADem Mar 2015 #133

The real scandal here Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #126