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67. All medicines have major side effects and can be misused. Anti-depressants have saved the lives

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:18 PM

Mar 2015

of many people and to claim they do not is incredibly insensitive to a huge number of people.

Neither aspirin (with its serious side effects of hemorrhage and kidney failure) nor anti-depressants should be "handed out like candy" but the stigma against properly used medicine and the people who it helps is incredible.

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Co-pilot 'tore up sick note' on the day he crashed jet - hid secret illness from company [View all] Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 OP

Germanwings co-pilot 'hid illness from employers' Bosonic Mar 2015 #1

Wow! Chilling cartoon...his inner demons got the better Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #2

German News reports the facts. He probably was on medications as part of 'treatment' Sunlei Mar 2015 #3

Lufthansa management must be in hyper-crisis mode right now... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #4

May face? heaven05 Mar 2015 #6

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #10

They should sue the "antidepression Drug" Corps. Sunlei Mar 2015 #8

Yeah, god knows what potentially lethal cocktail the guy was on... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #12

or off, some of those side effects happen when people stop taking the drug abruptly. Sunlei Mar 2015 #15

This info will be coming out shortly. And yes, stopping Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #16

Anyway, it is the Drug Corps that should be sued and the Doctors who rx these drugs. Sunlei Mar 2015 #18

Oh, please. eggplant Mar 2015 #32

medication with known, very serious, side effects. Sunlei Mar 2015 #57

You are making a gross generalization regarding the one incident in the OP eggplant Mar 2015 #80

Let's be clear here. eggplant Mar 2015 #92

And deciding to comit suicide would be a reason to stop taking them. jwirr Mar 2015 #42

Exactly... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #45

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That is a great and chilling graphic of depression. Thank you. uppityperson Mar 2015 #69

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Institutionalize all of them? heaven05 Mar 2015 #7

No, of course not, but keep them away from professions Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #11

100% percent agree heaven05 Mar 2015 #19

Could not agree more--same stringent regulations for Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #46

Really? How would you do that? progressoid Mar 2015 #41

Just keep them the hell away from potentially deadly, Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #44

So anyone with a mental illness can't get a driver's license. progressoid Mar 2015 #47

I have repeatedly spoken of 'forms of high-speed, MASS transit...' Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #49

What about a commercial truckers license...or a ship Captain....crane operator, air force pilots....or....etc? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #54

Where high-speed, instantaneous decisions are called for, Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #56

no, label the medication as 'do not drive' & make sure the random drug screens check for use. Sunlei Mar 2015 #60

What medication? progressoid Mar 2015 #71

Are you planning to do routine 200-drug assays on every transportation worker? jmowreader Mar 2015 #96

I hope you rethink that after recognizing there are many different types and degrees of psych issues uppityperson Mar 2015 #70

Delicate balance, admittedly, but when hundreds of people's lives are Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #73

Depression, anxiety, bipolar. All different with some overlapping parts. uppityperson Mar 2015 #75

Thanks for the link--will bookmark for later reading... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #79

If a person seeks help for a problem before it gets severe enough to impact anything, they should uppityperson Mar 2015 #72

I'm saying that, in professions and positions where instant reactions and split-second Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #77

So me, taking ssri for years, successfully, should be randomly tested and banned from working uppityperson Mar 2015 #81

No, not if you've been thoroughly assessed by a mental health expert, Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #82

What other health issues are you including in this? Why should I be barred from the operating room? uppityperson Mar 2015 #83

Did you read the rest of the sentence? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #85

Nice post, great points. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #103

And in the case of a profession where the Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #9

That would be 'crazy' to lock depressed persons away. They would get worse, not better! Sunlei Mar 2015 #13

All medicines have major side effects and can be misused. Anti-depressants have saved the lives uppityperson Mar 2015 #67

People who require Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #14

Exactly...there is speculation that he may have been driven Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #17

There is indeed no shortage of speculation. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #23

But, increasingly based on facts from the field. Thankfully. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #24

On the other hand people with severe depression should not be flying airplanes bklyncowgirl Mar 2015 #22

Sure, as long as they get comprehensive Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #26

Now I guess we'll see even more stigmatizing of people with mental illness. alarimer Mar 2015 #20

yup. mopinko Mar 2015 #29

... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #30

By some people in this very thread. eggplant Mar 2015 #33

happens every time. mopinko Mar 2015 #35

As someone upthread suggested, transfer them temporarily Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #31

and how do you intend to ascertain this information? mopinko Mar 2015 #34

Well, this pipedream is about to get very real for Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #36

stupid. just stupid. mopinko Mar 2015 #37

If you are taking a mind-altering, pschotropic drug, you should not Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #38

sounds like his shrink told him that. mopinko Mar 2015 #40

I am calling no-one a 'potential murderer'...and I agree that his shrink bears responsibilty, also.. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #48

and would you want to have to share this w your employer? mopinko Mar 2015 #53

Well, I certainly wouldn't want to wait until I snapped and took 150 souls Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #55

+1 progressoid Mar 2015 #43

Germanwings actually had a procedure Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #39

Which is likely to be revised and tightened up in the wake of all of this... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #50

What if it is their first incident? Soem people you just can't reach. cbdo2007 Mar 2015 #87

That would depend on the gravity and scope of the incident, surely? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #89

No, I saying what if flying a plane into a mountain is their first incident.... cbdo2007 Mar 2015 #90

So true, how many times do we hear, 'but there were no signs...' Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #91

Reading down the replies to here, they are here and it is incredible. uppityperson Mar 2015 #68

+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #95

So begins the corporate defence against lawsuits...the lawyers imprint is all over this. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #21

Lufthansa's lawyers are certainly working 24-hour days... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #25

Sad that when I saw his pic, I'm glad he's not from Mid-East duhneece Mar 2015 #27

Yeah, sad commentary. What a messed up world... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #28

So when is Pat Robertson Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #52

Shit, I hate these threads. hunter Mar 2015 #58

I also have a borderline bi-polar component. I wouldn't Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #61

A complicating factor, at least with me... hunter Mar 2015 #65

Wow, know this scenario SO well... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #66

I'm gratified Doc Holliday Mar 2015 #59

Let's just hope this tragedy leads to a tightening up of what the French Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #63

the clinic denies co-pilot was treated for depression magical thyme Mar 2015 #62

Details will soon emerge on reason for 'sick notes' that he is Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #64

Maybe his mom wrote 'em. TeeYiYi Mar 2015 #74

Many clinics do not treat anyone for depression....like a PCP office wouldn't give cbdo2007 Mar 2015 #88

This clinic is going to have to disclose his illness. It's inevitable riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #94

they'll share it with the investigators/authorities magical thyme Mar 2015 #98

I read a report he was dx with diabetes gwheezie Mar 2015 #76

Have not heard that...diabetic coma? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #78

I should have noted sarcasm gwheezie Mar 2015 #84

The pile of undisclosed sicknotes at his home would tend to Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #86

Correct gwheezie Mar 2015 #93

pointless to speculate. magical thyme Mar 2015 #99

Let's really go off on a tangent jmowreader Mar 2015 #97

He did decide to do just that... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #100

Now we have to figure out why jmowreader Mar 2015 #101

Yes, for the sake of 'white knuckle' flyers the world over... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #102