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NuclearDem

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58. No, you clearly don't.

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 12:56 PM

Apr 2015

I was opposed to military intervention in Syria, but Russia's reluctance to pressure Assad into disarming its chemical weapons made a threat of military action the only recourse available.

Only when the Mediterranean fleet was on its way did Putin finally convince Assad to give up his weapons.

So, no, I was never in favor of military intervention in Syria. I was in favor of a diplomatic solution, one that Putin made damn near impossible until the last minute.

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Russia threatens to use 'nuclear force' over Crimea and the Baltic states [View all] 7962 Apr 2015 OP

S=rious.y, wtf happens when Putin nukes Uraine? Old and In the Way Apr 2015 #1

I don't even want to think what would happen sakabatou Apr 2015 #71

They are NATO countries. murielm99 Apr 2015 #2

Couple of points Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #3

... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #9

So hearsay is now ok in news? newthinking Apr 2015 #12

Considering our own leaders RobertEarl Apr 2015 #63

I disagree that it was a crime Telcontar Apr 2015 #65

welcome to DU? RobertEarl Apr 2015 #66

The ultimate extension of the Scalia Doctrine Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #70

Did not realize there was a DU orthodoxy Telcontar Apr 2015 #79

Really has nothing to do with Putin Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #15

Assuming anything in this article is true (which I'm unsure about) PersonNumber503602 Apr 2015 #16

It's not a matter of countries Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #17

You do not believe that Russia's recent activities are only further encouraging PersonNumber503602 Apr 2015 #19

You need to get the timeline in the right order Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #21

US/EU initiate coup in Ukraine? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #27

Not even a slight stretch Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #53

Thanks for the info LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #64

Still getting the timeline backwards. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #51

No, you clearly don't. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #58

"George Bush in Disguise" LOLOLOLOL When they have nothing to refute your facts.. they resort to Cha Apr 2015 #67

You did a very good job of summarizing Russian state media's bullshit geek tragedy Apr 2015 #45

I wonder who supplied the US flags. Joe Chi Minh Apr 2015 #28

So you're justifying an explicit threat of nuclear warfare. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #42

As I have already established Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #54

When was the last time China threatened to nuke someone? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #56

When has anyone here justified any country using nuclear force? NuclearDem Apr 2015 #59

Most nations do get upset if you mass military force at their borders Scootaloo Apr 2015 #78

Those drills didn't just appear out of nowhere. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #84

He hasn't, actually Scootaloo Apr 2015 #85

Actually, he has. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #86

Seeking legal prosecutions against perceived deserters is not a military threat. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #87

Not a military threat, fine, but what's the purpose of bringing up old Soviet issues NuclearDem Apr 2015 #90

Yeah, it's not like invading and annexing part of another country is at all provocative. Adrahil Apr 2015 #33

Amen! 7962 Apr 2015 #74

Taken from American notes? Geronimoe Apr 2015 #4

I really hope this is bullsheets. PersonNumber503602 Apr 2015 #5

so who said this? who heard it said? names please and proof would be useful as well nt msongs Apr 2015 #6

It is easy to notice the persistant pattern of these stories in our media newthinking Apr 2015 #14

Much as it's easy to notice the obvious patterns coming from Russian state-owned media. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #40

Putin should be declared incompetent and replaced by those in power in Russia. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #7

Don't worry, he'll totally be done after NuclearDem Apr 2015 #8

Finally!!! Short post that says it ALL. 7962 Apr 2015 #30

Has anybody pointed out to Putin who will be eating the fallout? Warpy Apr 2015 #10

You seem disappointed that we aren't into WW III. What response do you think rhett o rick Apr 2015 #11

Right... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #38

Yeah, their little red herring strawmen are RIDICULOUS.. are you just so "disappointed Cha Apr 2015 #69

This is simply another confirmation that we are *both* pushing each other's buttons. newthinking Apr 2015 #13

Sounds like one of those "written by the CIA" type articles... MattSh Apr 2015 #18

The basic premise is correct: It's the same as Ukraine. DetlefK Apr 2015 #20

It's simpler than that Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #22

And why did the Baltic states join NATO??? DetlefK Apr 2015 #23

Do you know of any NATO states at war with anyone? joshcryer Apr 2015 #26

Cue the bullshit NATO map davidpdx Apr 2015 #31

You mean the one showing NATO bases in Kazakhstan? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #48

And Korea, and Japan....etc. davidpdx Apr 2015 #73

Their relationship with Russia before NATO was NuclearDem Apr 2015 #35

Um, Russia left the Baltics alone because they broke away. joshcryer Apr 2015 #25

Russia has an absolute, unambiguous and current obligation to leave the Baltics alone. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #43

Ummmmmmmmmmmm................ raven mad Apr 2015 #24

My family grew up in post WWII Latvia tavernier Apr 2015 #29

Nearly every post before yours needs to read what you just said. 7962 Apr 2015 #32

My parents fled Estonia ahead of Stalin's troops LiberalEsto Apr 2015 #88

Amen, Esto tavernier Apr 2015 #89

My Latvian grandparents ended up in a displaced persons camp in Germany after the war. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #91

Mine were in a DP camp in Germany too. LiberalEsto Apr 2015 #92

Moscow Times: Inside the Confused Mind of Vladimir Putin pampango Apr 2015 #36

Russia is a bully fiddodiddo Apr 2015 #37

Russia denies threatening use of nuclear weapons bemildred Apr 2015 #39

He doesn't deny that he'd try to launch a soft invasion of the Baltics though. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #41

Yep, they are both still doing it. bemildred Apr 2015 #46

I would quibble slightly. I think they understand each other very well. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #47

You are the one that mentioned pedagogy. bemildred Apr 2015 #49

I guess by pedagogy I meant that Putin was trying to teach Europe and North geek tragedy Apr 2015 #50

It does not matter what the lesson is. bemildred Apr 2015 #52

States try to teach one another lessons all the time. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #55

And they regret it all the time. bemildred Apr 2015 #57

There is the possibility that the lesson of Iraq geek tragedy Apr 2015 #61

Well that is the question in my mind: are WE capable of learning? bemildred Apr 2015 #62

The Independent is owned by a Russian oligarch CJCRANE Apr 2015 #44

Doesn't matter if you believe the media or not.. we have a personal anecdote that verifies from a Cha Apr 2015 #68

You know how it is; dont like the messenger, therefore the message is false. nt 7962 Apr 2015 #76

And, visa versa.. don't like the message so the messenger is false Cha Apr 2015 #77

same countries the nazis devastated and the russians vultured in and never fully left. Sunlei Apr 2015 #60

According to notes written by some guy and seen by another guy at some meeting. Not LBN Monk06 Apr 2015 #72

The story was dated Apr 2. Thats when the story was first released. So yes it is. 7962 Apr 2015 #75

Well then Monk06 Apr 2015 #82

OK, that was a good one. Havent seen her in too long! 7962 Apr 2015 #83

It was at a meeting of the Elbe Group Depaysement Apr 2015 #80

Thanks for that. nt bemildred Apr 2015 #81