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handmade34

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35. consider please
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:03 AM
Apr 2015

that the majority of that "mile upon mile of industrial agriculture" is grain, growing primarily to feed livestock


"About 349 million acres in the U.S. are planted for crops. This is the equivalent of about four states the size of Montana. Four crops -- feeder corn (80 million acres), soybeans (75 million acres), alfalfa hay (61 million acres) and wheat (62 million acres) -- make up 80 percent of total crop acreage. All but wheat are primarily used to feed livestock.

The amount of land used to produce all vegetables in the U.S. is less than 3 million acres"


there is still good pasture for a limited amount of livestock but not at the rate we consume meat

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... F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1
"My right to a clean future and my kid's future trumps your right to have bacon." Nope cstanleytech Apr 2015 #6
True enough. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #8
do not acquiesce handmade34 Apr 2015 #28
I'm sure it is. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #2
not until disease and collapse forces them to.... villager Apr 2015 #3
Not always DustyJoe Apr 2015 #15
Note I said the era of "cheap meat" will end villager Apr 2015 #20
Given how far into overshoot we are, the era of "long pork" may well follow NickB79 Apr 2015 #93
Oh I expect we'll be on "The Road" -- Cormac McCarthy style -- soon enough. villager Apr 2015 #94
well I'm half way there. craigmatic Apr 2015 #4
By gawd...if we have our way, you WILL eat pink slime! SoapBox Apr 2015 #5
Doing the happy vegan dance! mucifer Apr 2015 #7
Had me a steak at Outback tonight yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #9
I don't have the desire to go vegetarian either. alarimer Apr 2015 #116
Nice point of view chernabog Apr 2015 #117
Did whoever wrote the headline read the story? jmowreader Apr 2015 #10
Fuck that. I just recently nailed the recipe for Korean short ribs. Throd Apr 2015 #11
Please share! Aerows Apr 2015 #88
can't afford vegan DustyJoe Apr 2015 #12
Well, Let's see Thespian2 Apr 2015 #19
12 lbs dressed? mopinko Apr 2015 #83
Eat more bacon. longship Apr 2015 #13
Maybe we all oughta dump whatever we want in the rivers and leave others alone. ZombieHorde Apr 2015 #32
proselytizing handmade34 Apr 2015 #34
I find myself eating less meat as I age. longship Apr 2015 #38
I recently discovered a new "ice cream": Coconut Bliss, and it is! kentauros Apr 2015 #50
Perhaps, but cow pasturage isn't so evil as a monoculture herbicide soaked corn farm bhikkhu Apr 2015 #14
consider please handmade34 Apr 2015 #35
Very good point bhikkhu Apr 2015 #36
.... handmade34 Apr 2015 #37
We're meat eaters in this family, but eating a lot less, mountain grammy Apr 2015 #16
you really can teach an old dog new tricks gwheezie Apr 2015 #17
+1 Thanks for sharing your own evolution on the matter villager Apr 2015 #21
Which diabetes symptoms did cutting out meat address? tridim Apr 2015 #51
her endo suggested it gwheezie Apr 2015 #75
just one thing shanti Apr 2015 #85
I think she was referring to protein gwheezie Apr 2015 #106
For non-vegans wanting to change their diets ffr Apr 2015 #18
"Forks Over Knives" donf Apr 2015 #24
I lost weight too gwheezie Apr 2015 #30
thank you for caring handmade34 Apr 2015 #26
The actress who plays Amy on The Big Bang Theory is a vegan neuroscientist bananas Apr 2015 #45
She also eats Kosher, which is much easier if you are Vegan..... Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #71
She's also been an anti-vaxxer asshole NickB79 Apr 2015 #105
Al Gore: "There are 10 vegan restaurants in Nashville now." bananas Apr 2015 #46
You can start with Meatless Monday bananas Apr 2015 #47
America is sounding like a bad dream anne neville Apr 2015 #125
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Vegans will be so much more annoying now. EEO Apr 2015 #22
Non environmentalists have always found environmentalists to be annoying. ZombieHorde Apr 2015 #33
Indeed. EEO Apr 2015 #91
Capitalism sucks, doesn't it? PatrickforO Apr 2015 #23
The only time I eat meat at all 2naSalit Apr 2015 #25
Anyone interested in the impact of the livestock industry lordsummerisle Apr 2015 #27
:) C Moon Apr 2015 #29
I can't take this onecent Apr 2015 #31
all environmental and health groups handmade34 Apr 2015 #39
I didn't find the word "vegan" anywhere Gman Apr 2015 #40
Odd - the article uses the word 3 times, once in a direct quote from the paper muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #112
Vegan diets take a great time committment Warpy Apr 2015 #41
Doesn't have to take a great time commitment. eShirl Apr 2015 #44
Meh... I eat beef about once a week. Adrahil Apr 2015 #42
Sore losers. LiberalElite Apr 2015 #43
Vegan makes me anemic, and I don't want to give up meat. closeupready Apr 2015 #48
Too much Douglas Adams... backscatter712 Apr 2015 #52
... F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #59
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Animals are animals, not people. closeupready Apr 2015 #55
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In civil society, humans have greater rights than animals who are part of humanity's food chain, closeupready Apr 2015 #58
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Animals can not be citizens of society; thus, no, people have no obligation to bestow them with closeupready Apr 2015 #61
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"It's not a hard concept to grasp." Neither is the concept of torture - closeupready Apr 2015 #63
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It need not be. closeupready Apr 2015 #65
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Well you haven't persuaded me. But I wish you well in your efforts. closeupready Apr 2015 #68
Human meat ??? In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #56
We're "pro-rape"? Where on Earth are you getting your food from? arcane1 Apr 2015 #67
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Can you be bothered to explain that absurdity? arcane1 Apr 2015 #73
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Hyperbole and insults do not make a convincing argument for your position. Throd Apr 2015 #69
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Absolutist twaddle and accusations of "pro-rape and torture" Throd Apr 2015 #78
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You should fire your Marketing Department. Throd Apr 2015 #82
I myself am transitioning to vegan, but it's slow going 0nirevets Apr 2015 #54
But.............. but............ what about a grilled raven mad Apr 2015 #74
I won't be quitting grilling ribe eyes.. onecent Apr 2015 #101
Moose meat is ... ahem.... strong.... Adrahil Apr 2015 #107
It is NOT! It's just a big overgrown deer - raven mad Apr 2015 #109
Gotta say that wasn't my experience..... Adrahil Apr 2015 #110
Eating more meat is how I've been controlling my diabetes. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #77
I went vegan years ago mitch96 Apr 2015 #80
The resource concentration mechanism we call civilization probably isn't good for the planet either The2ndWheel Apr 2015 #81
Except that the real issue is population, not food. Gregorian Apr 2015 #84
Because it's an even more complex issue than food? The2ndWheel Apr 2015 #86
What we're doing is only "sustainable" via petroleum use. Gregorian Apr 2015 #100
Yes, but all that really matters is what it's currently working The2ndWheel Apr 2015 #102
Bingo! Aerows Apr 2015 #97
I have lamb marinating in the refrigerator Aerows Apr 2015 #87
I guess my popcorn is vegan if I don't put any butter on it KamaAina Apr 2015 #89
I lived with a vegan. Aerows Apr 2015 #98
I knew a vegan who believed.... Adrahil Apr 2015 #108
I became vegetarian about 18 years ago. RebelOne Apr 2015 #90
There are some remarkable substitutes now. Codeine Apr 2015 #92
Grow and make your own tofu. Aerows Apr 2015 #99
I hate almonds. n/t RebelOne Apr 2015 #104
I have tried the vegan cheese substitutes, RebelOne Apr 2015 #103
I'm a huge fan of Peanut Butter Aerows Apr 2015 #114
Over population is the problem. Even a vegan diet stresses the environment Aerows Apr 2015 #95
One important point missing chernabog Apr 2015 #111
I presented an article Aerows Apr 2015 #113
I know what you posted chernabog Apr 2015 #115
Over population Aerows Apr 2015 #118
Consumption of animal products is the problem. chernabog Apr 2015 #120
And how well fed Aerows Apr 2015 #121
You're gonna go with the water argument? chernabog Apr 2015 #122
Welcome back.... zappaman Apr 2015 #124
And its better for your digestion, too undeterred Apr 2015 #96
FYI, Planet prefers non-GMO corn fed Vegans. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #119
Report: Humanitarian diet best for the planet GliderGuider Apr 2015 #123
Whatever! I ain't giving up my bacon Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #126
Whatever is most convenient for you! chernabog Apr 2015 #127
Why? Because bacon is delicious? Adrahil Apr 2015 #128
I can think of 2 things chernabog Apr 2015 #129
Another vegans are morally superior thread. alphafemale Apr 2015 #130
Yep..called me a wingnut because I like bacon Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #131
Food Taliban drive me nuts. alphafemale Apr 2015 #132
This is an LBN story about facts, not opinion. onehandle Apr 2015 #134
obama is coming for our meat! Enrique Apr 2015 #133
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