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36. Very good point

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:09 AM

Apr 2015

The climate and soil in my area support potatoes, hay and livestock. It doesn't work out too badly here, for what we have.

In other areas I can see the point - plenty of pasturage isn't good enough to support livestock, and then the good soil and water goes to growing food for livestock. I'll take back my argument and rethink it.

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