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In reply to the discussion: Federal report: Vegan diet best for planet [View all]The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Every institution we've built is based on more people doing more things. More taxpayers, more customers. We're not good at splitting a smaller pie. Too many tough choices.
Plus whether we're talking about consumption or population, we don't know what is or is not sustainable. We know what isn't sustainable after. Although even that can be dependent on your particular perspective. During is another matter. We're all still here, so what we're currently doing, and what we did to get here, has been/is sustainable. Otherwise we wouldn't be where we're at.
We got 4 options:
1) More people doing more
2) Fewer people doing more
3) More people doing less
4) Fewer people doing less
1 is basically what we're doing in the big picture. 2 is sort of the developed world at this point. 3 is the developing world to some degree. 4 isn't a society, so it's not really an option, but it can exist.
I don't see how we can escape that. Especially with 1-3 being more people and/or more consumption, each feeding off the other. More food available, more people possible. More people, well we can't just let everyone starve. Everything comes at a cost. Which is why I would tend to say there are no solutions, just more problems.