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45. Honestly, just seeing all the support here for Chafee right now makes me understand

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:22 PM

Apr 2015

exactly how conservative the Democratic party has become.

You may have been joking, but all this support for Chaffee in this thread is not a joke for me, it's downright frightening.

If Democrats nominate a lifelong republican for President, I'm outta here, forever.

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Lincoln Chafee Explores Presidential Run as a Democrat [View all] Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 OP

Interesting. SoapBox Apr 2015 #1

Very... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2015 #75

If Hillary's bid evaporates there needs to be an alternative waiting in the wings bigworld Apr 2015 #2

When Hillary's bid evaporates. pscot Apr 2015 #28

. . .. n/t MBS Apr 2015 #52

How would her campaign "evaporate"? brooklynite Apr 2015 #66

Or she decides not to run. longship Apr 2015 #89

Martin O'Malley is pretty good. I like him. mahina Apr 2015 #109

Works for me. More the merrier. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #3

Oh hell, why not. progressoid Apr 2015 #4

not at all true! MisterP Apr 2015 #23

Some of them admit it. progressoid Apr 2015 #61

As a Democrat who is no fan of Hillary rury Apr 2015 #5

Yes! I agree completely. maddiemom Apr 2015 #63

Also agree. I worry that she's not honing her skills much in the last few months erronis Apr 2015 #73

Unlike Hillary, Chafee was one of the few to vote against Bush's Iraq blunder Adenoid_Hynkel Apr 2015 #108

Right there with ya. n/t susanna Apr 2015 #119

At last, the ice may be breaking! PassingFair Apr 2015 #6

Got to hope someone is going to challenge the anointed one davidpdx Apr 2015 #110

Oh, great. A Democratic Prez candidate who was a Republican up until 2007, Zorra Apr 2015 #7

Ask Elizabeth Warren and Charlie Crist. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #11

Hillary Clinton was once a republican as well. Zorra Apr 2015 #21

Good Lord--HRC was a Goldwater Girl before she could vote. Then she went to college and wised up. msanthrope Apr 2015 #25

I'm not being defensive. I'm being real. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #34

Jokes....in short supply here..... msanthrope Apr 2015 #36

Honestly, just seeing all the support here for Chafee right now makes me understand Zorra Apr 2015 #45

Chafee isn't getting nominated. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #46

bless you! nt Zorra Apr 2015 #48

Clinton has never voted Republican. She was in high school when her parents pnwmom Apr 2015 #71

She was president of Wellesley College's Young Republicans in 1965 PassingFair Apr 2015 #80

If so, she was still too young to vote. OTOH, Dwight D. Eisenhower pnwmom Apr 2015 #84

So is Lincoln Chafee. PassingFair Apr 2015 #85

He's less liberal than the Rockefeller-era Republicans Hillary supported pnwmom Apr 2015 #86

In an era when the term "liberal Republican" doesn't EXIST... PassingFair Apr 2015 #87

Good for him. He also stood up for privatizing Social Security. pnwmom Apr 2015 #92

Really? cannabis_flower Apr 2015 #120

The age was 21. Her activities with the Young Republicans were as a freshman. nt pnwmom Apr 2015 #121

Well, considering that she was only 17 years old at the time I wouldn't worry about it. Beacool Apr 2015 #122

What Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat now karynnj Apr 2015 #17

The difference being, Bernie is a lifetime liberal, who is more Democratic than Zorra Apr 2015 #32

There was a time when there were Republican moderates and liberals karynnj Apr 2015 #51

I'm a lazy white guy who never changed my registration from Republican until 2007 QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #29

No candidate can win without liberals, either. The general difference being, no liberal would ever Zorra Apr 2015 #38

Not true, Ike, Rockefeller, Chafee, and a number of other liberal Republicans QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #57

And if we were running campaigns 40 years ago, that might be a decent model to follow. jeff47 Apr 2015 #62

The fact that you consider these folks liberals is a perfect illustration of how far Zorra Apr 2015 #64

Actually.... jeff47 Apr 2015 #59

According to Gallup QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #88

That's a very long post to lump people together just as I explained. jeff47 Apr 2015 #90

Gallup is considered an authority on public opinion QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #93

Lincoln Chafee is less of a Republican than some Democrats. Arkana Apr 2015 #70

maybe he's "evolving"? nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #111

What is wrong with seeing the light? treestar Apr 2015 #124

Chafee is an idiot. hack89 Apr 2015 #8

in what way? Wasn't he against our invasion of Iraq? still_one Apr 2015 #10

You know he has never won an election as a Democrat? hack89 Apr 2015 #13

All politicians are political opportunists, except maybe Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren. My still_one Apr 2015 #19

So leadership and executive skills are irrelevant? hack89 Apr 2015 #26

Leadership? Ted Cruz has leadership qualities. If one is wrong on the issues, leadership becomes still_one Apr 2015 #30

It's not either or. You can have good positions, but you need to be respected as a leader, too. merrily Apr 2015 #37

That is fine, but my point was you need to be right on the issues, and leadership, but being right still_one Apr 2015 #39

If it's either or, both are irrelevant merrily Apr 2015 #42

Then like you said if you can't get elected, it is a moot issue. I think the problem with Chaffee still_one Apr 2015 #53

That as well. merrily Apr 2015 #56

He was weak and ineffective in his one term as Governor hack89 Apr 2015 #49

I wasn't advocating for or against him, except to the point that his voting record is quite still_one Apr 2015 #50

He does hold many progressive views. I was addressing his fitness to be President. nt hack89 Apr 2015 #55

I think this is a clever scheme of the Clinton machine cosmicone Apr 2015 #58

He was the only Republican senator to vote against the invasion. KansDem Apr 2015 #24

He has a very liberal voting record. Better than a lot of Democrats still_one Apr 2015 #27

I still miss Feingold. merrily Apr 2015 #40

Chafee was pro gun control ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #99

You know damn well that Dems in the RI legislature opposed Chafee's proposals hack89 Apr 2015 #106

And you know damn well the Dems in this state are puppets for ALEC ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #113

They also passed marriage equality legislation. hack89 Apr 2015 #116

And Mattiello grouses about it to this day ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #117

Right. Nt hack89 Apr 2015 #118

He's a good foil. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #12

He has won elections as a Republican and an Independent. Going for the trifecta perhaps? hack89 Apr 2015 #14

I suspect the former co-chair of the Obama re-election campaign is not working against msanthrope Apr 2015 #15

You certainly do not want him as president hack89 Apr 2015 #16

He is not an Executive. He is, however, a very smart political figure who will bring msanthrope Apr 2015 #22

His success in RI was based on his father's name and reputation hack89 Apr 2015 #41

Linc was always more DC connected. He's got connections and influence there. He'll msanthrope Apr 2015 #43

In what ways was he a weak and ineffective governor? elleng Apr 2015 #33

He had absolutely no influence in the state house hack89 Apr 2015 #44

Yes, that's why he never went up against own party. PassingFair Apr 2015 #82

A lot of teabaggers here said that about him ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #97

A lot of Dems in Rhode Island also said that about him hack89 Apr 2015 #100

Did you like Frank Caprio when he told Obama to shove it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #102

Can't stand Providence politicians hack89 Apr 2015 #103

Calling Chafee "an idiot" is a pretty low blow ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #104

Then you hang out with a different group of Democrats than me hack89 Apr 2015 #105

What RI Democrats DO you hang out with? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #114

Dennis Canrio, John Edwards, Jim Sevaney. hack89 Apr 2015 #115

Are you from RI? treestar Apr 2015 #125

Yes. Nt hack89 Apr 2015 #126

A primary season is good for the people and the party. riqster Apr 2015 #9

Further proof that today's Democrats are mostly 70's and 80's Republicans. jalan48 Apr 2015 #18

NBC News version of the story... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #20

I can't see Chafee or Webb winning the primary. merrily Apr 2015 #31

This sounds good to me and, elleng Apr 2015 #35

I have mixed feelings. I am glad to have options other than HRC. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #47

Here's a suggestion...Maybe liberals LIKE Hillary Clinton brooklynite Apr 2015 #68

Seems the Corp-Media are onboard with HRC and we know how "liberal" they are. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #74

Veep? nt Freethinker65 Apr 2015 #54

He's the only veep choice who would bring even less to the ticket Proud Public Servant Apr 2015 #60

He may be a thoughtful person, but he doesn't have it. vkkv Apr 2015 #65

Yup. I just saw him on Morning Joe. He seemed nice enough but really bland and CTyankee Apr 2015 #112

I wish there were more people running on the Dem side shireen Apr 2015 #67

Linc's popularity was shot to hell in Rhode Island; Arkana Apr 2015 #69

Why was his popularity 'shot to hell in Rhode Island?' elleng Apr 2015 #91

From day one, no one was on his side ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #98

So his popularity wasn't shot to hell because of anything he did, elleng Apr 2015 #101

Um, No. blackspade Apr 2015 #72

why the past tense about your thoughts? ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2015 #76

Because he is no longer governor Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #78

so that means you no longer like him now? ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2015 #79

Oh that would be entertaining underpants Apr 2015 #77

Any candidate who can safely deliver the Electoral Votes of Rhode Island is good enough for me... brooklynite Apr 2015 #81

sometimes late learners become very educated . olddots Apr 2015 #83

I'd be behind this on his environmental record alone... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #94

Lincoln Chafee is a Republican. bvar22 Apr 2015 #95

Linc is a good man, but not a politician ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #96

He was just on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. moondust Apr 2015 #107

Well, he is a registered Democrats since 2013. Beacool Apr 2015 #123