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mntleo2

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15. Sooo, the state believes ~ what?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:51 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Sat Apr 11, 2015, 08:46 AM - Edit history (2)

That the State of CA believe it can do a better job than good parents who are working at incorrigible behavior with all they can do? This is ridiculous! The government are terrible parents! For the most part foster care and adoption is a failure for most kids because it removes them from their roots. It is no secret that foster and adopted kids are more likely to drop out of school, become substances abusers, become homeless, become teen parents, got to jail and become mentally ill when they are removed form their families. It is also known that if left in their families with services and support, even when the parent as substance abuse issues, the child will have a better chance at thriving.

In the the 9th Circuit Court case Los Angeles County VS Humphrey if you read the comments the court made at that time, they said they lacked any trust that the State could even make decent decisions because they have no accountability. In other words they face no consequences for their failure, which are myriad ~ and this is the way it is in all states, CA is no different than any other state in the Union.

This is because the courts have the hubris to give more power to themselves than they do for parents, which used to be a sacred family right. Not so much anymore since the laws have been corrupted. This is because of course, (sarcasm here) since the child is acting out, well whether they can legally find fault with their parents or not, the unspoken assumption is that the parents are a fault and gave bad parenting doncha know.

Listen People you need to understand a few things about what has happened to the law since the 1980s when the witch hunt over child satanic sex abuse hysteria was all the rage. In the McMartin case, which was later debunked and found to be all lies, the media was all over it and every inch of the clown show was followed nationally. There were similar witch hunt cases in Washington State and Massachusetts as well ~ all of them exposed as pure baloney.

The so-called mental health "experts" were using a now lampooned "therapy" where they experimented on children with what is now called "false memory retrieval". This is where the "therapist" suggestively got kids to "remember" sexual abuse as infants and when they were very young that they supposedly had traumatically "forgotten". Now they know (and so do the kids as adults) that in truth the kids were just trying to please and/or shut up the therapists, police, and social workers who hounded these kids sometimes for hours asking over and over the same questions until they got the answers they wanted. Here is the worse part: then they presented this so-called "forgotten memories" in court as fact meaning that it carried the same legal weight as a DNA test would carry.

Why is using this claptrap therapy as fact significant in this case? Because even though it was debunked, those court findings still exist as fact on the record and built the framework for the laws we see today. The horror about all this is not one single judge, lawyer, social worker, psychologist, police personnel or anyone was ever held accountable for all the lies that were told in court.

In fact after (privately) realizing their disastrous mistakes, many of these "professionals" got legislators to make them legally immune before these kids became adults and sued them after they realized they had been manipulated and their lives ruined ~ and they will carry the lifelong burden of the part they were forced to play in ruining their family's lives as well. Indeed most of these "professionals" have been promoted into even more influential positions as a reward and so they are in positions to continue to uphold their actions. These laws are on the books and until your state and national legislators do the right thing and change those laws, which they won't since it has to do with some major federal funding they would lose if they did that was inspired by this hysteria, the courts will continue to make those damaging decisions that ruin entire families at their whim.

Believe me I know that child sex abuse exists and needs attention when it occurs. But the hysteria around the witch hunts at that time has only made things legally worse in a wider context for parents, their families and the falsely accused. Furthermore as an example as to the affect of these laws, it is one-sided as it focuses more on male sex offenders and virtually ignores boys who have been exploited by older women, which btw cause as much damage to a boy's life as it does for girls who have been sexually abused by men. Indeed the studies that have been done shows that 80% of the male prison populations were sexually abused as children ~ but the startling find was that of those abused, over 70% were boys that were abused by grown women! Again the hysteria that spread across this nation was mostly focused on male sex offenders. Accused men are almost automatically assumed guilty before they can defend themselves. Few women ever face the same consequences. Indeed most men and boys think they have been "lucky" to have been sexually abused by women even after they themselves get into trouble with substance abuse, anger issues, buried issues with anger at women and power issues, and their male-oriented forms of sexually acting out ~ many of the same patterns as girls who have been sexually abused. Mostly ignored. Thanks to the hysteria that was prevalent 30 + years ago creating these laws that corrupt parental rights vs the State.

The point I'm trying to make is that, if the courts will take as fact complete and utter lies that affect parenting rights, it is because they believe they are "correct" and citizens have no right to question their authority no matter what hogwash they promote since they face absolutely no consequences if they are wrong and it ruins entire families. So whatever way they tilt the facts they ignore, the truths they pretend do not exist, well unless you have $hundreds of $thousands of dollars to prove otherwise, YOU are the one at fault, not them. Ever.

My 2 cents, Cat in Seattle

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