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25. I don't give a FF what Bill did. He's not running AFAIK. As for Hillary, you should back up what

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:42 PM

Apr 2015

you say if you wish to have any credibility, and not just being another worthless polemicist.

And by the way, I probably don't like Hillary any more than you do ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6520767 ). But around here "IIRC" blah blah doesn't convince anyone of anything.

12. IIRC, Clinton's also on record to raise the age and/or cut benefits to address the fully-fake crisis! crisis! in Social Security.

20. In 2008, Hillary was prattling on about the need to "reform" Social Security or some such crap, without raising taxes.

Oh, so you did some research after the "IIRC" in response #12 -- at least you got it down to a specific year. Maybe you can share the link. Though in #12 you were pretty specific in what you IIRC'd [font color = blue]"raise the age and/or cut benefits"[/font], while in #20, though you've got a specific year, suddenly the prescription is a bit more vague [font color = blue]"the need to 'reform' Social Security or some such crap, without raising taxes"[/font].

And whether it is a crisis or not, the projections are that Social Security will not be able to pay promised benefits after 2033 (18 years from now), and those projections have been trending to an earlier and earlier trust fund exhaustion date. Maybe you can tell us why that's not a problem.

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IIRC, Clinton's also on record to raise the age and/or cut benefits MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #12

Which Clinton? I hadn't heard that one before. (wouldn't be surprised though) nm progree Apr 2015 #15

Both. Bill actually made a deal with Newt to starve grannies, MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #20

I don't give a FF what Bill did. He's not running AFAIK. As for Hillary, you should back up what progree Apr 2015 #25

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Yes. I think the so-called full retirement age maxes out at 67 for people born in 1960 and later progree Apr 2015 #16

I wish someone could conduct a study Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #48

And experts are determining that since people Iliyah Apr 2015 #17

25 is for college people. If you are not in that group, you probably started working at 16 LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #18

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I can't retire until I'm 67 now....my mom died at 68. ileus Apr 2015 #19

+1 area51 Apr 2015 #47

Seriously? chapdrum Apr 2015 #22

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