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45. there is divided opinion among the Navajo

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 03:58 PM

Apr 2015

and Pueblo and Hopi tribes are opposed. (So is the National Park Service and the Grand Canyon Trust and the Sierra Club for that matter)

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/critics-battle-plan-build-1bn-mall-grand-canyon-1497068:

The Navajo Nation, which owns the targeted land, supports the development, claiming that it will create jobs. It plans to invest $65m (£43.49m) into roadways, and water and communication facilities to back the project.
However, not all of the Navajo are on board.
"We are for economic development," Yellowhorse, a resident, told NBC. "Just not here at this place. It is my church. It's where I commune with the holy ones, the gods that walk along the canyon."

Save the Confluence is an organization founded by one chapter of the Navajo Nation:
http://savetheconfluence.com
http://www.grandcanyontrust.org/sites/default/files/gc_STC_Update._June_July2014.pdf
recent newscasts (NBC News and others): http://savetheconfluence.com/news/

Here's the petition for Navajos to sign: http://savetheconfluence.com/petitions/

Pueblo opposition:
http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2014/09/all-pueblo-council-opposes-escalade.html

The Arizona Republic ran a 4-part series on the issue. .
Here's part 3 http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2014/09/04/grand-canyon-confluence-land-rights/12992581/

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The Grand Canyon Is Getting A Mall [View all] brooklynite Apr 2015 OP

If there is anything more than a footprintless footpath to the canyon seveneyes Apr 2015 #1

WTF? footprints on a trail are as bad as a mall? wordpix Apr 2015 #6

In a world of absolutes, the details are moot seveneyes Apr 2015 #13

I'll take footprints over a mall any day wordpix Apr 2015 #75

Modesty is the hardest to hide seveneyes Apr 2015 #79

They have an Imax at the visitor center Drale Apr 2015 #33

I can imagine seveneyes Apr 2015 #35

Capitalism at its best! Pharaoh Apr 2015 #2

Pharoah, you're heard chapdrum Apr 2015 #14

And you don't think other countries do similar? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #17

We built the Great Wall snort Apr 2015 #19

Ok. That's fair. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #20

I am a native Arizonan. snort Apr 2015 #21

bravo, I agree wordpix Apr 2015 #76

hey, NJ here, and I have not set foot in a mall for decades - hollysmom Apr 2015 #90

I thought we did build the Grand Canyon. kwassa Apr 2015 #66

A KFC at the Great Wall was a mind blower for me jberryhill Apr 2015 #85

Couldn't have said it any better swilton Apr 2015 #30

Here! Here!... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2015 #32

water issues are the way to stop this wordpix Apr 2015 #3

Ok, I know this is nit-picky, however mimi85 Apr 2015 #16

lah haw yuh, not lah holl uh bananas Apr 2015 #23

It is "la hoya" not "la holla" n/t cosmicone Apr 2015 #39

Really nit picky considering it's the Spanish name for a Native American group. bluedigger Apr 2015 #41

+10000 Thank you! n/t Tanuki Apr 2015 #60

I stand corrected but it was late at night & yes, you've nit-picked wordpix Apr 2015 #77

SIGN THIS PETITION MBS Apr 2015 #4

Signed and passed on n/t PasadenaTrudy Apr 2015 #15

Thanks!! n/t MBS Apr 2015 #38

Thank you, MBS. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2015 #49

Signed! burrowowl Apr 2015 #50

This Seems So Wrong colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #5

Is that a new thing? The2ndWheel Apr 2015 #7

you also build an economy on tourism & if you wreck what people come for wordpix Apr 2015 #11

It's 5 miles away from the actual Grand Canyon yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #18

Don't you bring facts into this! Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #34

well the alleged "5 mi. away" is not a fact in that article wordpix Apr 2015 #80

That was not in the article and even if it was wordpix Apr 2015 #78

This is not why people tour the grand canyon - asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #8

I love it when white people try to tell the indigenous populations of the world Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #37

The Navajo Nation knows very well asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #62

I have worked with a lot of American Indian Bands and Canadian First Nations Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #64

Economic development - okay - just not a asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #70

Why not? the Hualapai already built an airport there Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #71

Lastly - water - water - water asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #72

The issue in Canada really isn't the pipelines Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #73

would be an epic disaster of heat deaths when power/air conditioning goes out Sunlei Apr 2015 #9

Actually, its a gread idea. Suppose you are at the edge of the canyon and it gets cold. Hoppy Apr 2015 #10

Makes sense ripcord Apr 2015 #67

"...providing easy access to both a fragile ecosystem..." CrispyQ Apr 2015 #12

This sounds like something Liberalagogo Apr 2015 #22

Next, we'll find out that a conglomerate of the richest waste management companies in the country aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2015 #24

I think that idea has already been floated. -none Apr 2015 #42

In the age of online shopping, why do we need another mall? Crowman1979 Apr 2015 #25

When Dominos can deliver a pizza by drone ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2015 #27

If we put a roof over the top of it we could turn the whole canyon into a mall tularetom Apr 2015 #26

Don't the native peoples have dominion over their land? What little they've left, that is? MADem Apr 2015 #28

So much for the Republicans being against obscenity DFW Apr 2015 #29

The GC is a federal park. former9thward Apr 2015 #44

Not all of it jberryhill Apr 2015 #54

Then people should not be complaining about it. former9thward Apr 2015 #56

Makes me wonder how many of the Navajo nation are really for this. Cannot believe it is a majority. jwirr Apr 2015 #31

there is divided opinion among the Navajo MBS Apr 2015 #45

Thank you. Was pretty sure that would be the situation. jwirr Apr 2015 #48

The Navajo own it as a tribe. former9thward Apr 2015 #47

perfect opportunity for natives to create a park they control wordpix Apr 2015 #82

Of course, next be will the Koch Bro's eyeing it as a "Land Fill". ProudProg2u Apr 2015 #36

or the 'pukes will pass an act making it a nuke waste depository wordpix Apr 2015 #83

I look at this differently cosmicone Apr 2015 #40

Interesting the difference in attitude between the Hawaiians stopping a non commercial telescope... Fumesucker Apr 2015 #43

here's a SECOND PETITION to sign: MBS Apr 2015 #46

I would hate to see something like this happen. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #51

Joni Mitchell says it best > YOHABLO Apr 2015 #52

Fitting davidpdx Apr 2015 #58

The Great Pyramids and Sphinx in Egypt: IcyPeas Apr 2015 #53

They must have bought out the fake Hard Rock Cafe jberryhill Apr 2015 #55

I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it davidpdx Apr 2015 #59

Absolutely nothing is sacred. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #57

sadly true in this country wordpix Apr 2015 #84

I love all of the whitesplaining to the Navajos about why they should not build this project, Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #61

It's quite a difference from the threads about the telescope in Hawaii. n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #63

Completely distinguishable in terms of environmental impact jberryhill Apr 2015 #81

I was referring to tammywammy Apr 2015 #88

Please link to reliable polling of those groups on either question jberryhill Apr 2015 #89

It reminds me of the people who fetishize subsistence farming for the developing world Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #65

"Why are they not listening to the Zuni tribes, the Hopi tribes and us, our Navajo people," Zorra Apr 2015 #68

I usually agree with ya romanic Apr 2015 #69

I hope the Navajos will control the land instead of handing it to corporate Mallmerica wordpix Apr 2015 #86

if they control the land should not they control the land dembotoz Apr 2015 #74

well there are many ways the land can support them without a mall wordpix Apr 2015 #87