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68. He's losing me on this.

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Obama Fires Back At Warren, Liberals Over 'Dishonest' Attacks On Trade Deal [View all] DonViejo Apr 2015 OP

Is he being deliberately dishonest? The deal is a secret from US! That's the point. arcane1 Apr 2015 #1

.... DonViejo Apr 2015 #4

You'd think republicans would be 100% against "the most progressive trade agreement in our history" arcane1 Apr 2015 #6

Denial tends to get one nowhere CountAllVotes Apr 2015 #7

Obama is lying Thespian2 Apr 2015 #9

Why don't you check how many have won? ZERO. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #28

Here's how it works... Thespian2 Apr 2015 #59

None of these free trade agreements are worth a damn. Big_Mike Apr 2015 #55

No, President Obama isn't lying. Elizabeth Warren is lying. Cha Apr 2015 #63

He is the who is being absolutely disingenuous. olegramps Apr 2015 #37

Elizabeth Warren said congress can't TALK ABOUT what they saw in the TPP whathehell Apr 2015 #39

Fine Pres Obama can give the text of the deal in progress to the press, stop the naysayers BUT peacebird Apr 2015 #2

Agreed. Note to PBO "Publish it now." Vincardog Apr 2015 #8

Before the final negotiations take place? He should publish something that, when changed, will be okaawhatever Apr 2015 #11

How about marking it DRAFT? Just the investor dispute resolution part. Vincardog Apr 2015 #13

How about waiting until we know what it actually says and deal with FACTS. The only people who okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14

You want us to wait for 5 years after it becomes law to read it? That is when the dispute "Court" Vincardog Apr 2015 #19

That is absolut.b.s.. I don't know where you're getting your info. The bill has 90 days okaawhatever Apr 2015 #20

Fast track = no debate no amendment. Your path is capitulation. Vincardog Apr 2015 #23

.... DonViejo Apr 2015 #25

Words are CHEAP. Vincardog Apr 2015 #29

So is rhetoric... DonViejo Apr 2015 #33

By then it will be too late. Vincardog Apr 2015 #36

Sorry, I disagree... DonViejo Apr 2015 #38

You're wrong. The text won't be released until after fast track is passed. No changes will GoneFishin Apr 2015 #58

They get their soundbytes from the ignorant shite that's being thrown about and spread it like Cha Apr 2015 #65

Fast track does not mean no debate. They will have plenty of time to debate. What they can't do is okaawhatever Apr 2015 #26

It's amazing that we ever pass any treaty at all. IF this POS can't withstand the light of day Vincardog Apr 2015 #31

Oh please. Let's deal with the truth here. The truth is this bill will see the light of day. Why are okaawhatever Apr 2015 #40

I find your argument to be disingenuous Vincardog Apr 2015 #41

You are not properly informed. olegramps Apr 2015 #42

Ah horseshit. JoeyT Apr 2015 #60

Transparency Plucketeer Apr 2015 #3

Paul Ryan is in agreement with the Prez re TPP asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #5

II'll bet he is! CountAllVotes Apr 2015 #10

Oh, he is soooo clever salib Apr 2015 #12

I couldn't disagree more. Obama never tried to mislead on single payer. He has said since 2004 okaawhatever Apr 2015 #17

Why shouldn't the public get to read and comment on the drafts of the agreement? candelista Apr 2015 #21

Because any agreement between 12 countries with 28 working groups will never be agreeable okaawhatever Apr 2015 #24

Your answer makes no sense. Beauregard Apr 2015 #44

No, our democratic process involves elected representation. You comment however you'd like. For okaawhatever Apr 2015 #46

That's a bullshit manipulation tactic. If it was a good deal there would be no need to hide it until GoneFishin Apr 2015 #56

Keep parsing and parsing salib Apr 2015 #35

+1. Definitely sounds desperate. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #57

Sorry, but you are totally misinformed. olegramps Apr 2015 #43

Oh, THAT's informative! :) Beauregard Apr 2015 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author olegramps Apr 2015 #49

I was not responding to you but to the post at #20 olegramps Apr 2015 #50

Well, I was responding to you. Beauregard Apr 2015 #53

actually he was informing the poster that his info was inadequate! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2015 #61

I am sorry that your comprehension is seemingly unable to grasp the clear statements. olegramps Apr 2015 #67

You are soooo wrong. I guess the cheap ignorant pot shots aren't having an impact. Cha Apr 2015 #64

Hmmm... First Senator Warren was wrong and now she is dishonest... Wasn't Shakespear that said diabeticman Apr 2015 #15

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7xgd2l0up1qbfpl4o1_500.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #16

Yes and Elizabeth Warren should stop telling them. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #27

He really hates liberals. too bad. They were ready to walk through fire for him in Jan 2009 Doctor_J Apr 2015 #18

Obama hates me? Nah, he doesnt. He is a center left American politician. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #30

"Dishonest"? That's an unfortunate choice of words. candelista Apr 2015 #22

Like I said the other day-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #51

Interesting post. candelista Apr 2015 #66

Joint media conference: Obama and Warren. No time limits. mahannah Apr 2015 #32

No gloves davidpdx Apr 2015 #54

He's fighting harder against Democrats on this than he ever did against Republican on the ACA. EEO Apr 2015 #34

He needs Rahm back to tell us how retarded we are. PassingFair Apr 2015 #47

Why can't I pull this up on line? sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #48

" walk over and see the text of the agreement." Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #52

there is an easy and obvious solution to this issue.... mike_c Apr 2015 #62

He's losing me on this. romanic Apr 2015 #68