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139. you've never been to a firefight

Mon May 18, 2015, 12:31 PM

May 2015

I can tell. And that is my point...take your distraction response somewhere else. geez Too large to ignore and I'm sure there were plenty of shootings elsewhere in this great nation of ours, perpetrated by all manner and races of people. You've made no point.....

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Biker Gang Shootings Turn Waco Restaurant Into Combat Zone [View all] TexasProgresive May 2015 OP

Righteous gun toters in action. Hoyt May 2015 #1

No. Violent felons illegally toting. hack89 May 2015 #6

I doubt all were illegal, and they probably got them from so-called Hoyt May 2015 #14

Because motorcycle gangs are so misunderstood hack89 May 2015 #16

Not much difference in my opinion. Strap a gun on to walk down a city street, and you become Hoyt May 2015 #17

The average gun owner does not open carry hack89 May 2015 #21

Neither did Zman, supposedly. Hoyt May 2015 #22

So every gun owner is a Zimmerman in your mind? Nt hack89 May 2015 #24

You have to be quite callous to carry and train to shoot people. So, yes, not Hoyt May 2015 #27

Wayne thanks you for your efforts. Nt hack89 May 2015 #29

No, the NRA thanks the gungeoneers for their support. Hoyt May 2015 #34

You are just working the issue from a different angle hack89 May 2015 #41

He's become the go-to default, hasnt he? nt 7962 May 2015 #33

Because nobody remembers the names of all the other shitbags Major Nikon May 2015 #44

Show us the gun crime stats for licensed gun owners compared to others. 7962 May 2015 #76

No, don't "save us the trouble," back up your statement. The Stranger May 2015 #133

Sure. There are several, 7962 May 2015 #136

Hoyt is a Michael Foster in his mind sarisataka May 2015 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author heaven05 May 2015 #123

every gun owner heaven05 May 2015 #71

So everyone is a pre-criminal? hack89 May 2015 #80

you'll figure it out heaven05 May 2015 #83

Those evil gunz - magic talismans that turn normal people into killers hack89 May 2015 #84

guns aren't the problem heaven05 May 2015 #86

No. A potential Zimmerman, yes. eom MyNameGoesHere May 2015 #117

And every man a potential rapist. hack89 May 2015 #119

You're are correct. MyNameGoesHere May 2015 #155

Just like blacks are treated as pre-criminals. When that ceases, then we'll talk. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #158

Only the cr�me de la dum Major Nikon May 2015 #26

Never have been a fan of open carry hack89 May 2015 #28

Sure, Zimmerman was no issue whatsoever Major Nikon May 2015 #35

Well we could look at actual data involving millions of permit holders hack89 May 2015 #42

Permit holders and legal toters commit more gun crimes than people who would never Hoyt May 2015 #45

Thank you Captain Obvious. Nt hack89 May 2015 #46

Hey, you gun fanciers like to talk about how pure you are. So folks Hoyt May 2015 #49

Ok. Nt hack89 May 2015 #51

Thank you! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2015 #159

Not only that Mars has never had any gun violence. ileus May 2015 #65

Mars was probably populated until too many yahoos started carrying gunz and promoting them to others Hoyt May 2015 #73

You may be right discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #129

Sure, we could certainly engage in all sorts of pointless endeavors Major Nikon May 2015 #48

Which is why every state that has liberalized concealed carry has seen increased gun deaths hack89 May 2015 #50

Oh wait... Major Nikon May 2015 #103

"83 percent committed suicides" hack89 May 2015 #104

You should have read it more closely. 222 deaths out of 743 /= 83% Major Nikon May 2015 #106

Can you show a single state where concealed carry led to an increase in gun deaths? hack89 May 2015 #105

The link showed several Major Nikon May 2015 #107

You misunderstand the question hack89 May 2015 #118

I understood the question perfectly Major Nikon May 2015 #145

So rates are not important? That means gun deaths declined so you want to avoid the question hack89 May 2015 #146

Explain to me how all those suicides were due to concealed carry? hack89 May 2015 #147

*sound of crickets chirping* Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #149

They are people who can't get much respect or attention in everyday life, Judi Lynn May 2015 #96

I think that is pretty much it. Hoyt May 2015 #99

+1 7962 May 2015 #31

but, but heaven05 May 2015 #66

I guess you think that bikers who kill people have had no previous brush with the law. former9thward May 2015 #74

No, I don't know heaven05 May 2015 #78

"I don't like broad brushing any group/race/culture" sarisataka May 2015 #79

nothing broad brushing about heaven05 May 2015 #81

You are quite willing to give bikers sarisataka May 2015 #85

I know some bikers heaven05 May 2015 #87

I know some gun carriers sarisataka May 2015 #91

13 months of earning heaven05 May 2015 #97

South West Asia service sarisataka May 2015 #101

Agreed. Training should be required. 7962 May 2015 #137

Responsible gun owners..... paleotn May 2015 #75

Right. hack89 May 2015 #82

Six of one, half a dozen of the other... LanternWaste May 2015 #131

Update from KCEN TV news 9 dead 8 injured TexasProgresive May 2015 #2

At least they took it out to the parking lot Warpy May 2015 #30

A rumble looking for a place to happen. freshwest May 2015 #36

Well they had the place, apparently Twin Peaks refuse to cooperate with the police... Historic NY May 2015 #53

They should be sued by somebody if they regularly permit violence on the premises. freshwest May 2015 #58

See post #108 TexasTowelie May 2015 #109

Good thing everyone was armed to the teeth. undeterred May 2015 #3

gun humpers are so fucking ignorant Skittles May 2015 #11

There were probably more guns than teeth. TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #47

rofl. n/t miyazaki May 2015 #112

Have you priced teeth and guns recently? Guns are cheaper happyslug May 2015 #153

Feral humans. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #4

When two groups of "responsible" gun owners have a "friendly" debate cosmicone May 2015 #5

No. Two criminal gangs with illegal weapons hack89 May 2015 #7

what the fuck do you know about it at this point? Schema Thing May 2015 #18

Biker gangs armed to the teeth? hack89 May 2015 #20

This is Texas. Those guns might have been perfectly legal. Warpy May 2015 #32

What are the odds that most of those "gentlemen" have criminal records? Nt hack89 May 2015 #43

100% okasha May 2015 #116

Is this an episode of the NEW Twin Peaks? greiner3 May 2015 #8

"Twin Peaks" is newer version of Hooters. 7962 May 2015 #37

MC terrorists gather in full force and fully armed in a restaurant in mid-afternoon to kill parle... Fred Sanders May 2015 #9

gun humping cowards Skittles May 2015 #10

Not bikers.... Augiedog May 2015 #12

Drugs or sex trafficking was probably involved project_bluebook May 2015 #62

One of the involved gangs is the Banditos sarisataka May 2015 #95

Two more groups that were involved was the Cossacks and the Scimitars TexasTowelie May 2015 #108

Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars. Hell Jesse James just lost a lot of customers. Monk06 May 2015 #115

Rand Paul just lost at least WatchWhatISay May 2015 #13

Fucking thugs. Blame Obama and DeBlasio WestSideStory May 2015 #15

LOL, that train's never late! freshwest May 2015 #19

!!! Kali May 2015 #111

Because you know it's coming! (Snagged from treestar) n/t freshwest May 2015 #124

How is this Obama's fault? Chemisse May 2015 #148

Sarcasm WestSideStory May 2015 #152

Twin Peaks is one of tgose breasturant chains. AngryAmish May 2015 #23

When I saw "Twin Peaks" tonekat May 2015 #88

Nine less secondvariety May 2015 #25

Were any of the bikes or guns damaged? TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #38

Not just guns. Where are the OC guys when you need 'em? PD lucky they weren't shot. freshwest May 2015 #39

I'm reminded of when McCain went to Sturgis.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #40

Whee!!! El Supremo May 2015 #52

Thread Win. n/t Adsos Letter May 2015 #59

I thought an outlaw biker sarisataka May 2015 #67

Well this made the NYT as a "breaking" BumRushDaShow May 2015 #54

In the NYT defense, 9 dead was not known at the time of DU posting. AngryAmish May 2015 #68

When I went to the site BumRushDaShow May 2015 #77

Everybody shooting in self defense? Downwinder May 2015 #55

Law enforcement shot some of them, after the initial shooting in the restaurant started... Adsos Letter May 2015 #57

That would be self defense. Downwinder May 2015 #60

From the NY Times report Adsos Letter May 2015 #56

Gun nut shitheads running apoplectic interference for their owners in the gun industry alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #61

I take it your dictionary is missing the A section? Nt hack89 May 2015 #64

SOA withdraws??? ileus May 2015 #63

talk about thugs!!!!!!! heaven05 May 2015 #70

I didn't think we were allowed to call people Thugs anymore FLPanhandle May 2015 #120

oh, I missed that heaven05 May 2015 #122

Waiting for more info, sounds like most killed were killed by police fire.. AuntPatsy May 2015 #72

a chain restaurant... like olive garden??? dembotoz May 2015 #89

My friend in the area said that the city is getting increased cop Lobo27 May 2015 #90

Gunhumpers Forever Forever Gunhumpers Tom Ripley May 2015 #92

Texas. Not surprising really. hollowdweller May 2015 #93

Would you explain exactly what it is we voted for, down heah? TexasProgresive May 2015 #94

Care to back that statement up? Paladin May 2015 #121

gohmert, poe, heaven05 May 2015 #125

So you live in Minnesota, land of benign Republicans and no violent biker gangs? Paladin May 2015 #128

most times with Texans heaven05 May 2015 #132

Grouping all Texans into one big sludge pit, are you? Paladin May 2015 #134

nope heaven05 May 2015 #135

"No where yesterday, in this nation, did a firefight like that happen" B2G May 2015 #138

you've never been to a firefight heaven05 May 2015 #139

Distractive? B2G May 2015 #140

I edited my response heaven05 May 2015 #141

Um, what? B2G May 2015 #142

uuummm, sure heaven05 May 2015 #143

The police officer at the scene that was speaking for the Waco department said that . . . Major Hogwash May 2015 #157

yep heaven05 May 2015 #161

Sure, Musically :) hollowdweller May 2015 #144

Legal gun owners practicing their Second Amendment remedies. onehandle May 2015 #98

Well, now that you've taken yourself out of the debate... derby378 May 2015 #130

Additionally, more people died in this event than in the Amtrak crash. onehandle May 2015 #100

This is crazy Gothmog May 2015 #102

Reinforcements for the gangs are coming into town. TexasTowelie May 2015 #110

okay heaven05 May 2015 #126

Something does not add up...... I have no doubt most if not all the bikers shot were by AuntPatsy May 2015 #151

Ya these kind of things don't happen with the "Moped Army". miyazaki May 2015 #113

Nine fewer castles to defend. Monk06 May 2015 #114

Sturgis should be interesting this summer CanonRay May 2015 #127

The Badlands will be badder than ever. n/t TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #154

The suspects look so...WHITE. n/t Vogon_Glory May 2015 #150

With Texans openly carry guns, this was expected. (nt) question everything May 2015 #156

Texas doesn't have open carry of hand guns. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #160