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41. No it wasn't

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:50 PM

Jun 2015

Last edited Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:12 PM - Edit history (2)

The poverty rates and illiteracy rates declined dramatically. Consumer spending was way up. That is why both Chavez and Maduro were repeatedly reelected in fair UN monitored elections.

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Venezuela's economy is imploding [View all] Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 OP

The silence from the Maduro-Chavez cheerleaders COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #1

Before Chavez, many reforms were necessary. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #2

Chavez-style populism can't go on forever... Adrahil Jun 2015 #4

One of the best descriptions I've seen yet. nt COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #11

Why would they bother when they know folks like you are waiting to jump them? Myrina Jun 2015 #3

How can one possibly defend the incredible bumbling of the VZ economy? Adrahil Jun 2015 #5

I don't see anyone defending the fact that their economy is based on oil betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #9

Not created by Maduro but exacerbated by him COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #13

Improving oil production would cause oil prices to collapse more. betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #40

"Chavez only expropriated uncultivated farm land." Not quite.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #43

The economy was pretty good in 2011 betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #50

The economy in Venz has been imploding for a decade. EX500rider Jun 2015 #52

If it has been a mess for ten years betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #54

It has definitely been a mess for that long: EX500rider Jun 2015 #58

The country was failing when oil was $100+ a barrel. "Oil" is the newest excuse. 7962 Jun 2015 #16

No it wasn't betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #41

There have been widespread shortages for at least two years hack89 Jun 2015 #46

Shortages a good while since Chavez put price controls in 2003 nt Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #64

A pearl in a septic tank. Shortages & hoarding started in '03. 7962 Jun 2015 #62

I'd be happy to sell Venezuela some toilet paper n/t Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #6

Cuba is a big loser in all of this hack89 Jun 2015 #7

Bloomberg: such an objective source betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #8

CNN is the source. Do you have some info on how fantastic Ven is doing you can share? nt Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #10

Dont hold your breath!! nt 7962 Jun 2015 #17

CNN is and always has been neocon "regime change" central. N/T betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #42

Fine, then provide a source that says different. GGJohn Jun 2015 #60

LOL snooper2 Jun 2015 #31

Not hard enough. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #55

The US economy has enormous problems. Beauregard Jun 2015 #12

If you're attempting to compare the US' economy COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #15

Brilliant answer! Beauregard Jun 2015 #19

About as brilliant as the post to COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #20

Let me know when there are massive shortages of food, medicine and other basic necessities hack89 Jun 2015 #22

Meanwhile, here in capitalist paradise: Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #25

Now imagine things ten times worse hack89 Jun 2015 #26

Our economy is doing better and better since Obama had to fix Bush's mess...your Maduro snooper2 Jun 2015 #32

Actually 1.2T, just slightly ahead of Japan. China owns much less US debt than people think whatthehey Jun 2015 #35

China isn't the largest owner of U.S. offshore debt instruments. Ikonoklast Jun 2015 #59

Hey, may I ask where/how you got those numbers? PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #61

The end result of unchecked corruption in a capitalist system. blackspade Jun 2015 #14

"Capitalism" that was stopped 15 yrs ago. Failure. 7962 Jun 2015 #18

How was 'capitalism' stopped 15 years ago? blackspade Jun 2015 #21

The govt took over most multi national businesses, refused to pay for services rendered, etc. 7962 Jun 2015 #27

A government takeover does not mean that capitalism ended. blackspade Jun 2015 #29

Which Dictionary or Economics Text is that Quoted from? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #30

Writings of Richard Wolff among others blackspade Jun 2015 #34

There is a group of anti-Venezuela posters here at DU fasttense Jun 2015 #38

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #45

So you admit your gang is anti-Venezuela fasttense Jun 2015 #48

I don't have a "gang", sorry. Anybody with two eyes could tell 60% inflation.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #53

I am certainly PRO- Venezuela. I'm anti-stupidity. 7962 Jun 2015 #63

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #56

I think we went to different schools snooper2 Jun 2015 #33

Well put Black Spade fasttense Jun 2015 #37

They are a member of the largest capitalist cartel in the world. nt hack89 Jun 2015 #23

Well, the government is. Obviously its not trickling down! 7962 Jun 2015 #28

When you call your unit of exchange a "bolivar" Android3.14 Jun 2015 #24

I am growing to love Venezuela threads Amishman Jun 2015 #36

So why did you join a liberal site? fasttense Jun 2015 #39

"Then turn around and bash liberals ideas?" EX500rider Jun 2015 #44

You sound just like the RepubliCON fasttense Jun 2015 #47

Democratic socialism as practiced in the Scandinavian countries is a liberal idea.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #51

Yeah, let's emulate this. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #57

The official word seveneyes Jun 2015 #49

You mean a planned economy ended up self destructing? Shocker! StrongBad Jun 2015 #65