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54. If it has been a mess for ten years

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:18 PM

Jun 2015

why did Chavez get reelected at least 3 times, and Maduro 1 time? The elections were declared fair, by both the UN and Jimmy Carter.

The fact that they want to get Iran doesn't mean they aren't after Putin as well.

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Venezuela's economy is imploding [View all] Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 OP

The silence from the Maduro-Chavez cheerleaders COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #1

Before Chavez, many reforms were necessary. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #2

Chavez-style populism can't go on forever... Adrahil Jun 2015 #4

One of the best descriptions I've seen yet. nt COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #11

Why would they bother when they know folks like you are waiting to jump them? Myrina Jun 2015 #3

How can one possibly defend the incredible bumbling of the VZ economy? Adrahil Jun 2015 #5

I don't see anyone defending the fact that their economy is based on oil betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #9

Not created by Maduro but exacerbated by him COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #13

Improving oil production would cause oil prices to collapse more. betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #40

"Chavez only expropriated uncultivated farm land." Not quite.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #43

The economy was pretty good in 2011 betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #50

The economy in Venz has been imploding for a decade. EX500rider Jun 2015 #52

If it has been a mess for ten years betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #54

It has definitely been a mess for that long: EX500rider Jun 2015 #58

The country was failing when oil was $100+ a barrel. "Oil" is the newest excuse. 7962 Jun 2015 #16

No it wasn't betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #41

There have been widespread shortages for at least two years hack89 Jun 2015 #46

Shortages a good while since Chavez put price controls in 2003 nt Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #64

A pearl in a septic tank. Shortages & hoarding started in '03. 7962 Jun 2015 #62

I'd be happy to sell Venezuela some toilet paper n/t Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #6

Cuba is a big loser in all of this hack89 Jun 2015 #7

Bloomberg: such an objective source betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #8

CNN is the source. Do you have some info on how fantastic Ven is doing you can share? nt Bacchus4.0 Jun 2015 #10

Dont hold your breath!! nt 7962 Jun 2015 #17

CNN is and always has been neocon "regime change" central. N/T betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #42

Fine, then provide a source that says different. GGJohn Jun 2015 #60

LOL snooper2 Jun 2015 #31

Not hard enough. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #55

The US economy has enormous problems. Beauregard Jun 2015 #12

If you're attempting to compare the US' economy COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #15

Brilliant answer! Beauregard Jun 2015 #19

About as brilliant as the post to COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #20

Let me know when there are massive shortages of food, medicine and other basic necessities hack89 Jun 2015 #22

Meanwhile, here in capitalist paradise: Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #25

Now imagine things ten times worse hack89 Jun 2015 #26

Our economy is doing better and better since Obama had to fix Bush's mess...your Maduro snooper2 Jun 2015 #32

Actually 1.2T, just slightly ahead of Japan. China owns much less US debt than people think whatthehey Jun 2015 #35

China isn't the largest owner of U.S. offshore debt instruments. Ikonoklast Jun 2015 #59

Hey, may I ask where/how you got those numbers? PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #61

The end result of unchecked corruption in a capitalist system. blackspade Jun 2015 #14

"Capitalism" that was stopped 15 yrs ago. Failure. 7962 Jun 2015 #18

How was 'capitalism' stopped 15 years ago? blackspade Jun 2015 #21

The govt took over most multi national businesses, refused to pay for services rendered, etc. 7962 Jun 2015 #27

A government takeover does not mean that capitalism ended. blackspade Jun 2015 #29

Which Dictionary or Economics Text is that Quoted from? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #30

Writings of Richard Wolff among others blackspade Jun 2015 #34

There is a group of anti-Venezuela posters here at DU fasttense Jun 2015 #38

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #45

So you admit your gang is anti-Venezuela fasttense Jun 2015 #48

I don't have a "gang", sorry. Anybody with two eyes could tell 60% inflation.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #53

I am certainly PRO- Venezuela. I'm anti-stupidity. 7962 Jun 2015 #63

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #56

I think we went to different schools snooper2 Jun 2015 #33

Well put Black Spade fasttense Jun 2015 #37

They are a member of the largest capitalist cartel in the world. nt hack89 Jun 2015 #23

Well, the government is. Obviously its not trickling down! 7962 Jun 2015 #28

When you call your unit of exchange a "bolivar" Android3.14 Jun 2015 #24

I am growing to love Venezuela threads Amishman Jun 2015 #36

So why did you join a liberal site? fasttense Jun 2015 #39

"Then turn around and bash liberals ideas?" EX500rider Jun 2015 #44

You sound just like the RepubliCON fasttense Jun 2015 #47

Democratic socialism as practiced in the Scandinavian countries is a liberal idea.. EX500rider Jun 2015 #51

Yeah, let's emulate this. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #57

The official word seveneyes Jun 2015 #49

You mean a planned economy ended up self destructing? Shocker! StrongBad Jun 2015 #65